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Post by Michael O'Brien on Jan 18, 2013 16:26:18 GMT
Ok, from the last round I see we had 33 people voting and 63 votes, so that means that 3 people only used one vote each.
Once again I want to remind you to choose ONE idea from East (E) and West (W) only and use BOTH votes prior to submission.
IF you submit one vote you will NOT get the option to use the 2nd vote afterwards.
This vote ends on the last day of the month. This is an open vote so you will see the current status of the vote prior to submission but I would ask not to leave it to the last minute in case you miss your chance to partake.
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Post by Gildor on Jan 18, 2013 19:39:49 GMT
Well, I'm glad to see Galdor reach the second turn and also glad and surprised to see Gloin for the Council of Elrond too! Now is a great time (with the recent release of Erestor) to have other personnalities from the council to be able to make a thematic council of Elrond Vignette! (using some of the White Council material if need be!)
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Post by twrich on Jan 19, 2013 7:56:10 GMT
It is unfortunate that we have only four choices for two votes. Also, how is it that Gloin (worthy as he is) with only 4 votes makes the 2nd round, but Lossoth Woman with 5 does not?
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Post by Mornedhel on Jan 19, 2013 8:57:06 GMT
Done, my vote went to special character as usual :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 18:12:03 GMT
It is unfortunate that we have only four choices for two votes. Also, how is it that Gloin (worthy as he is) with only 4 votes makes the 2nd round, but Lossoth Woman with 5 does not? I assume that as they were split between East and West the two highest from each were chosen. Gloin being East and Lossoth Woman being West.
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Post by Gildor on Jan 19, 2013 22:54:56 GMT
yup that must be that quendil, the votes were separate between east and west
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Jan 22, 2013 11:57:05 GMT
It is unfortunate that we have only four choices for two votes. Also, how is it that Gloin (worthy as he is) with only 4 votes makes the 2nd round, but Lossoth Woman with 5 does not? My mistake, I admit it. Sorry for the person who submitted the Lossoth woman.On second thought, I did not make a mistake.
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Post by Gildor on Jan 22, 2013 22:04:24 GMT
well I don't see where the mistake is actually I rechecked the results of 1st vote and if you want to be faire and allow two suggestions for each theme (two for east and two for west) the best scores for west and for east are those you provided the lossoth woman was only the third winning suggestion of first vote for WEST theme (after Galdor and the Gondorian Herald) , while Gloin and the Troll were the first winning suggestion for the EAST theme
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Post by twrich on Jan 24, 2013 8:54:15 GMT
Well Gildor, I think Michael explained things. As for East and West votes, there is no way to have voters only vote for one of each, even if that is the intention. Anyone can vote for two of the same category, just add them up between west and east and you will see the difference. It is the same for previous years (there seems to be a preference for the west figures). Nonetheless, I or some other supporter will nominate Lossoth Woman again.
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Jan 24, 2013 11:24:21 GMT
well I don't see where the mistake is actually I rechecked the results of 1st vote and if you want to be faire and allow two suggestions for each theme (two for east and two for west) the best scores for west and for east are those you provided the lossoth woman was only the third winning suggestion of first vote for WEST theme (after Galdor and the Gondorian Herald) , while Gloin and the Troll were the first winning suggestion for the EAST theme Actually you are right, I did NOT make a mistake after all. Whew. I am frazzelled trying to get the new site up and keep the other things, like newsletters and my other tasks going as well.
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Jan 24, 2013 11:35:02 GMT
Well Gildor, I think Michael explained things. As for East and West votes, there is no way to have voters only vote for one of each, even if that is the intention. Anyone can vote for two of the same category, just add them up between west and east and you will see the difference. It is the same for previous years (there seems to be a preference for the west figures). Nonetheless, I or some other supporter will nominate Lossoth Woman again. Not sure what you mean by that. I see 29 votes on one side (e) and 29 on the other (w). It makes no sense to try to use both votes on the west side as there are only two rivals and you cannot vote twice for one idea, so you would have to cast your vote for BOTH of them, making the vote irrelevant as the total rises for each by 1, resulting in no benefit to either idea's parties.
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Post by twrich on Jan 25, 2013 7:44:48 GMT
There were 34 votes for (W) figures, and 29 for (E) figures. At least that is what I count when looking at the Jan/Dec first round voting. Perhaps this is an example of some members only voting for one figure?
But it does not matter, we will have excellent figures for these two months and the opportunity to suggest something new next month.
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Post by ddaines on Jan 25, 2013 19:17:16 GMT
I hope , that if as appears likely, Gloin and Galdor win, that CT will include a chair with each and perhaps have them sitting - The White Council release makes a nice basis for The Council of Elrond . Just a thought
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Post by Gildor on Jan 25, 2013 21:48:34 GMT
well if those two win, and if those who submitted them agree (for Galdor, I do agree) we could contact Chris and make him know it would be a good idea to have them sat down.
But if I remember well, the suggestion for Gloin explicitly said it would be better to have him stand, because we had so many sitting dwarves already with the Unexpected Party...
Still a richly clothed , not in battle garb, dwarf, sat down, we don't have any...
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Post by ddaines on Jan 26, 2013 11:32:39 GMT
I ask for purely selfish reasons Gildor ;D, as I am not looking to converting so many standing figures to seated ones . I'm not sure if I could afford another UP at the moment which would solve a few problems with some seated characters , but then I sometimes make instant decisions and order and be damned ;D. In the meantime seated Denethors and other seated figures that are duplicates or pop up on ebay from time to time have helped with conversions . I could use 'artistic' license and have attendees standing and sitting I suppose
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Post by Gildor on Jan 26, 2013 16:01:10 GMT
well david we could begin a topic somewhere else about WHO was attending the Council of Elrond (precisely, not the main protagonist) in order to make a big diorama... attendees do include people who were emissaries sent along with Boromir for Gondor, or along Legolas from Mirkwood, or along Gimli and Gloin from Erebor.
we know about Erestor, Glorfindel, Galdor... but what about others un-named?
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Post by enheduanna on Jan 26, 2013 16:06:08 GMT
Are we sure that attendees at the council of Elrond sat? Certainly that is what I envision -- but is the fact that they were all sitting specifically noted in the text?
Looks like I've got to find a copy of Fellowship of the Ring...
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Post by Gildor on Jan 26, 2013 22:46:57 GMT
nope not all of them are sat, though I think Gloin did sat, as well as Bilbo but all attendees were not necessarily sat
I re-read the chapter this afternoon and we know that Boromir was alone to represent Men, along with Aragorn. Bilbo and Frodo for the Hobbits Gloin was sent with his son Gimli by Kind Daïn to warn about Sauron's emissary at Erebor Legolas went alone from Mirkwood to warn about the escape of Gollum Gandalf was alone as Istari Of Elves, besides Legolas, we know little alas
There are Elrond, Glorfindel, Erestor and Galdor. But it is said that there were councilors among which Erestor was chief among them... that may mean there were others as well
with all of these we have quite a precise accounting of all the characters attending the council.
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Post by ddaines on Jan 27, 2013 20:09:46 GMT
Without my original post hijacking this voting thread , I may use artistic license for my interpretation where I can use the standing figures as well as those seated to perhaps depict several moments of the Council 'happening at once', e.g. Aragorn holding his broken sword up as he reveals the blade that was broken, Gandalf standing explaining his 'adventures with Saruman, possibly Frodo standing as he declares that he will take the Ring to Mordor etc. With some clever positioning of seated figures I can 'hide' the bits of other members of the Council who I want to be seated but have had to undergo metal surgery. I guess such a long meeting would have caused some sore backsides so a few would want to stand ;D. As for who was there, I think along with the usual named suspects I will add a few extra members of Elrond's household as well .
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Post by Milo on Feb 3, 2013 9:04:48 GMT
MX UP is sold out, making more difficult to find seated dwarves...
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Post by ddaines on Feb 4, 2013 22:48:24 GMT
MX UP is sold out, making more difficult to find seated dwarves... Maybe , but I am glad for Master Theobald that his investment and idea has finally achieved full sales target .
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