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Post by Michael O'Brien on Mar 6, 2007 12:31:51 GMT
Welcome to another exciting chance to add your ideas and dreams to Mithril's LOTR miniatures. Post your suggestions here. ONE per member. This is an open month. Your suggestions can include single figures, mounted figures or even vignettes. Please be aware of the cost when suggesting multiple figures in a vignette. Note: We will not produce 'Watcher in the Water' or 'Grond'. they are too complex for vignettes. Please add some quotes about where it is mentioned or give descriptions to promote your suggestion. If you drum up support NOW, the you have a much better chance when it is time to vote. This suggestion board stops taking new ideas at 16.00 GMT on the 19th of March. Voting will begin on the 20th of March (first round) in the afternoon (GMT). Second round voting will commence on the 26th. This will last until the 5th of March. All votes will end at 16.00 GMT or BST (british standard time). You may add comments about other members suggestions as well. If you post any suggestions elsewhere it may not be seen or credited. Please post any suggestions in English. If you have any questions then post in the other thread provided for such questions. GO TO GALLERY PAGE: www.mithril.ie/Fellowship/gallery.html
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Post by Wendy on Mar 6, 2007 14:16:49 GMT
I shall bring back an old chestnut: I think I will suggest a variation of King Brand and King Dain. I would like them standing back to back in desperate defense fighting against the servants of Sauron in the War of the Ring. (The enemy is implied, not actually part of the scene.) Maybe King Brand is defending and Dain is in full swing with his ax or using it like a club. Shields of both are well dented and cut. Maybe Brand has already lost his. King Brand falls first, then Dain defends his body. Such heroism seems like it would deserve a figure being made. If one would like expand the scene and put in some enemies against which to fight, there are plenty of orcs and such to add from regular releases. Two figures shouldn't be too pricey. From Unfinished Tales, Gandalf speaking about the Battle of Dale, March 17, 3018: "But Dain Ironfoot was a worthy successor. And now we hear that he fell fighting before Erebor again, even while we fought here. I should call it a heavy loss, if it is not a wonder rather than in his great age he could still wield his axe as mightily as they say he did, standing over the body of King Brand before the Gate of Erebor until darkness fell.
It might have gone very differently indeed. The main attack was diverted southwards, it is true; and yet even so with his farstretched right hand Sauron could have done terrible harm in the North, while he defended Gondor, if King Brand and King Dain had not stood in his path."
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Post by bombadil1963 on Mar 6, 2007 20:59:16 GMT
I call you "Goodspell", Wendy!
Let´s wait and see if their (especially Dain´s) heroic deeds are worth a miniature for other fellows, too . . .
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Post by ddaines on Mar 6, 2007 21:48:38 GMT
I will put forward a suggestion which I originally suggested on a thread on Many Mithril Pages entitled "Suggestions that would never be made as a Fellowship figure", so I'll suggest it anyway! 'Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit' A small vignette depicting Sam holding a pan over his small turf fire with his pack and other 'bits of gear' lying around, Frodo asleep in the ferns and Gollum either holding out the two coney's to Sam or holding his hand in front of his face in horror as he realises what Sam is about to do. I would imagine Frodo could be integral to the base with Sam and Gollum as separate figures. Anyhow, sorry to all the anti-Hobbit brigade, but it might make a nice little scene.
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Post by barliman on Mar 7, 2007 15:33:49 GMT
I shall also return to one of my earlier suggestions -
A TRUMPETING ENT
- last suggested in May 2006 (how time flies!) and originally proposed just over a year ago. The Ent should be depicted trumpeting through his curled hands, as described in 'The Two Towers' and depicted in one of Ted Naismith's atmospheric paintings: 'Their limbs were long, and their hands had many fingers; their hair was stiff, and their beards grey-green as moss ... Suddenly they lifted their long hands to their mouths, and sent forth ringing calls, clear as notes of a horn, but more musical and various.'
I note, on looking back, that he picked up a whole one vote on his first appearance in January 06, and only five votes on his second outing, so I know better than to be too optimistic about his chances - but then, Eorl and Felarof only picked up a couple of votes on their first half-dozen or so appearances too, so anything is possible!
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Post by Halbarad II. on Mar 7, 2007 18:14:46 GMT
hello everybody
my suggestion this month: One of the bad side again:
WRAITHS ON WINGS The servants of the Lord of the Rings.
a Nazgul on a flying fell beast.
We have that one in the witchking's boxed set, sitting on the slain horse of Theoden.
But what about one quite in flying action pose? Body, head and tail should fit to the existing fell beast but with a little bigger and thinner outspreaded wings it could be made of 5 to 6 parts. Base, body/tail of fell beast, 2 wings and the ringwraith rider. (the legs could be applied to the body piece.) Perhaps the tip of one wing is to be attached to a kind of cloudy or airy base, not the tail or a stick in the stomach like Landroval eagle so the flying pose whould be very dynamic
I think this shouldn't be to complex and expensive then… and should also fit in a Blister, not a box.
Cheers, Harald
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Post by Gildor on Mar 8, 2007 11:01:55 GMT
Well I will submit once again my little vignette idea... maybe it will have more success: "The Crowning of King Elessar" Everything is in the title : Aragorn in regal outfit, kneeling face down, before Gandalf, in his whitest and most "protocolar" robes (almost as if he was the emissary of the West, thus, acting like a "Pope" ) who would put the crown of the king on Aragorn's head This is small, only two figurines, no need to put the throne as it already exists in the Gondor series. maybe just two or three steps for Aragorn to kneel and Gandalf to be above. I feel that it could be a very pretty vignette, and not very expensive at all... now, all I need, is votes , as there won't be a possibility to suggest this vignette again for quite some months after this one
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Post by Halbarad II. on Mar 8, 2007 19:23:08 GMT
good one submitted again Gildor!
But I think one important figure is missing in your scene: Hero Frodo. King Elessar wished that Frodo the ringbearer should bring the Crown to him and Gandalf should put it on his head. So a little great Hobbit shouldn't be forgotten standing beside the ceremony, perhaps with a pillow in his hands, where the precious crown was resting on…
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Post by dawd13 on Mar 9, 2007 9:18:57 GMT
Hello to everybody;
That's my first gold status suggestion. I hope you enjoy with it.
" A Gondolin gate guard"
The guard of the fountains, primarily those of the king. Warriors of this house defended the seventh gate of Gondolin. Loved silver and diamond, and marched into battle to the playing of flutes.
best regads to everybody
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Post by Gildor on Mar 9, 2007 10:05:20 GMT
Gondolin gate guard though the name of Gondolin is mentionned several times... I don't know if it is possible to make such a guard at least with this name.. it is from the Silmarillion...
As for Frodo you are right hwolf, but in order to remain a "not too much expensive" vignette, I think only two figurines should be fine. There is always the solution to convert the little serving hobbit from the Prancing Pony and adapt his plate to a cushon... I imagine the position of the figurine with Gandalf having the crown in his hands ready to place it on Aragorn's head already. Somewhat like the "Sacre de Napoléon" by Christian Delacroix... where self-proclaimed emperor Napoleon I crowns imperatix Josephine (with Gandalf as Napoleon, and Aragorn as... Josephine, lol)
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Post by twrich on Mar 9, 2007 20:30:54 GMT
Hello dawd13, and I am glad to hear your first suggestion. Unfortunately, Gildor is correct, in that certain names from the Silmarillion are outside of Mithril's licenses. Still, he could be described in more generic terms just to be safe. Perhaps you could revise your suggestion? Or you could send a message to Michael to ask if the word "Gondolin" would be allowed.
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Post by khador on Mar 9, 2007 21:40:46 GMT
After month of single elven figure, I propose a small swan boat of Lothlorien, with galadriel on it, taking one's leave of the fellowship of the ring, getting away by the Anduin river
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Post by estel on Mar 11, 2007 16:23:18 GMT
Mae govannen, lots of fine suggestions! Wraith on wings? Nice idea, even if I have more Nazgul (even on wings) than the Dark Lord himself, I think Chris version/interpretation of a Nazgul on wings would be a nice piece to collect. As I like the side characters of LotR very much, I would suggest the following miniature: [glow=red,2,300]HIRGON [/glow]the emissary of Gondor. Hirgon brought the Red Arrow to Théoden at Harrowdale, in token of Gondor's desperate need for help from its old allies. Riding back eastward to his Lord, Denethor, Hirgon and his companion encountered Sauron's forces on the Rammas Echor, and were cut down as they tried to escape.I would suggest a mounted figure, a little like a Gondorian officer, but with no heavy armour, as he has to be fast. He should have a visible arrow, carrying in his right hand in a real hard riding pose ( a little bit like Eorl on Felarof) a sword at his side, a bow an a quiver and some kind of dagger. He should have a cloak against bad weather. As I like the Halbarad miniature very much, I would be glad to see another mounted masterpiece from Chris T. and painting Mithril horsemen is a well rewarded job! Please no vignettes as they are fantastic but true money killers! Namarie ESTEL
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Post by bombadil1963 on Mar 11, 2007 18:01:49 GMT
Now here is my suggestion for this month: Boromir defending against an attacking Warg in Hollinhewing his head off (mustn´t be shown, really . . .) Remember that eerie scene when the fellows were tired of the unsuccesful attempt to pass through the Redhorn Gate: There was a howling in the air as if a captain of the Wargs was summoning his pack. The first meeting ended with one of Legolas never-failing arrows in the throat of that Warg-captain who was warned by Gandalf before. In the night began the assault. The fellows were fighting back to back as Gandalf gave order. The hobbits were caring for the fire but men, elf, dwarf and wizard were fighting with their own weapons. Their must have been a lots of casualties among the wargs because Legolas has shot all his arrows but no bodies were found the next day. A thrilling night was this and I was disappointed that Peter Jackson left this out in the movies. But now we have the chance to have it in parts as a vignette !!
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Post by Hammershield on Mar 14, 2007 10:28:33 GMT
This is not a suggestion. Yet. So... who is going to suggest Bombur on a palanquin? I can't remember who's baby that is, but if I don't see it on the list soon I will suggest it. (I like the Boromir/warg thing set, though.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2007 10:42:48 GMT
My suggestion is:
Grishnákh. We have a miniature of Ugluk, but not of the leader of the orcs of Sauron that catch Merry and Pippin. I would like to have a miniature of Grishnákh facing Ugluk (the existing one), at the moment that they are running away from the rohirrim and Pippin take a fallen knife to cut his ropes.
Felipe.
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Post by aelfwine on Mar 15, 2007 17:00:59 GMT
Once more unto the breach dear friends, once more... The usual ideas recur: a 32mm version of the 54mm prototype of Eowyn; a 32mm version of the 54mm Faramir; Haldir, Rumil and Orophin greet the Fellowship at the borders of Lorien... But no. What I suggest is: Elladan and Elrohir in combat before the Black GateElladan and Elrohir, the Dunedain of the North, and Prince Imrahil's household stand at the centre of the line of the Free Peoples as Sauron's host issues forth from the Morannon. Elladan and Elrohir are dressed in Ranger garb - but, as noted earlier "And have you marked the brethren Elladan and Elrohir? Less sombre is their gear than the others, and they are fair and gallant as Elven lords..."As Rangers they would have been garbed thus: "A little apart the Rangers sat, silent, in an ordered company, armed with spear and bow and sword. They were clad in cloaks of grey, and their hoods were cast now over helm and head...."Moreover, we see them described as... " So much alike were they, the Sons of Elrond, that few could tell them apart: dark haired, grey eyed, and their faces Elven fair, clad alike in bright mail, beneath cloaks of silver-grey."I imagine the sons of Elrond, perhaps one loosing a bow, the other armed with a spear, looking towards yet another foe approaching. At their feet, a dead orc lies, perhaps a dead Ranger of the North, too. Before them, an Uruk of Mordor is leaping towards them, his axe at the ready.... The scene is dynamic, violent and exciting. It is a moment trapped in time, like the Swan Knights diorama. The north wind is at the back of the heroes. The orc is full of rage and movement. But the Sons of Elrond and calm, fearless and grim. Gavin And PS: that's mail. Not plate. Mail
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Post by gilgaladtolkien on Mar 16, 2007 21:38:23 GMT
To make the "Rangers of Ithilien" - range more complete I suggest an Ithilien-Ranger with spear.
I love this range very much, but i miss a spearman.
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Post by Gildor on Mar 17, 2007 12:46:47 GMT
mmh I don't remember seeing rangers using spears as weapons in the books? but I may be wrong
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Post by ddaines on Mar 17, 2007 18:37:11 GMT
Probably just not mentioned Gildor, I'm sure they would have had some amongst their number, but having said that, if their main purpose was ambush and to carry out quick strikes on the enemy then perhaps a spear would not be an ideal weapon for that type of warfare.
Still a worthy suggestion nonetheless.
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Post by twrich on Mar 18, 2007 6:53:58 GMT
If this is a vignette month, then lets have a true vingette! But one not too expensive. Elladan and Elrohir together are a good suggestion for a vignette, as are several others:
But I must resubmit an idea put forth by many before: Frodo on his knees after Gollum has bitten the One Ring from his finger, staring at his hand as he held it before his face. Gollum dances upon the ledge of a precipice, gazing up at the the Ring. Sam is racing towards his Master, on the far end of the vignette, after realising what was happening on the ledge.
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Post by Ori on Mar 18, 2007 19:01:43 GMT
Umm.... Bombur is everybodies child. A lot of us have suggested him. Hammershield, I let you choose the "enviroment".
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Post by Hammershield on Mar 19, 2007 8:39:56 GMT
OK, so I'll sally forth with the Bombur suggestion. Bombur, extraordinarily obese, in extravagant garbs and lordly headgear (like a circlet) carried on an open palanquin to the dinner table by four young dwarves. It is right out of the Book, would very much be a Fellowship piece and he is certainly someone missing from the whole collection.
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Post by Axel on Mar 19, 2007 13:44:06 GMT
"One morning long ago"
By some curious chance one morning long ago ... Bilbo Baggins was standing at his door after breakfast, smoking an enormous long wooden pipe that reached nearly down to his woolly toes (neatly brushed) - Gandalf came by. ... He had a tall pointed blue hat, a long grey cloak, a silver scarf over which his long white beard hung down below his waist, and immense black boots"
It could also be called "Bilbo meets Gandalf"
I imagine both of them as depicted here, perhaps Gandalf being a bit more like the early sketches of Tolkien, but otherwise not unlike M52 (the best Gandalf imho).
If I may get carried away, I could also imagine some terrain, representing the entry of bagend (probably cast in Resin rather then metal). While that may be too much for a fellowship release, it would make an overwhelming 30year vignette.
BTW: Great suggestions so far...
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Post by aelfwine on Mar 19, 2007 15:31:06 GMT
mmh I don't remember seeing rangers using spears as weapons in the books? but I may be wrong Well, how about a compromise. Make the suggestion a Dunedain Ranger figure (since the Ranger of Ithilien and the Rangers of the North were in fact Dunedain). Actually, just checked the book. From "Of Herbs and Wild Rabbit" "Four tall Men stood there. Two had spear in their hands with broad bright heads. Two had great bows, almost of their own height and great quivers of long green-feathered arrows. All had swords at their sides, and were clad in green and brown of varied hues, and their faces were hooded and masked with green, except for their eyes which were keen and very bright..."So, yep, spears for both sets of Rangers. Gavin
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