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Post by Michael O'Brien on Oct 4, 2005 15:19:20 GMT
Just a quick note to explain my thoughts on the Sauron vignette. The vignette actually comprises the Dark-lord together with Elendil and Gil-galad, rather than Isildur. This is more in keeping with the scene described in Tolkien's text and additionally gives a better visual variety , showing an Elvan and a Numenorean character. The figure of Sauron is large and hisarmour is in large part based on the descriptions in ICE's "Southerm Mirkwood" rpg module. Note by Chris Tubb PREVIEW OF SAURON AVAILABLE ON FELLOWSHIP WEBPAGE NOW. www.mithril.ie/Fellowship/index.html
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Post by Gildor on Oct 4, 2005 16:53:28 GMT
Well that is good news that it is Gil-Galad and Elendil against Sauron. Is it possible to have a link or somewhere to look at for this description from "southern mirkwood" module?
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Post by Gildor on Oct 11, 2005 21:58:22 GMT
is there any news on the advancement of the vignette? maybe a preview pic or release schedule, and also the price?
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Post by Theobald on Oct 25, 2005 15:59:34 GMT
Just a quick note to explain my thoughts on the Sauron vignette. The vignette actually comprises the Dark-lord together with Elendil and Gil-galad, rather than Isildur. This is more in keeping with the scene described in Tolkien's text and additionally gives a better visual variety , showing an Elvan and a Numenorean character. The figure of Sauron is large and hisarmour is in large part based on the descriptions in ICE's "Southerm Mirkwood" rpg module. Note by Chris Tubb
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Post by Theobald on Oct 25, 2005 16:24:23 GMT
oops, I'm a bit confused about quoting online... well, What I want to say is: Please keep on with this idea. Some time ago I already wrote in a comment, that it really has to be up to Chris' ideas what the vignette has to look like. - From my point of view I do trust absolutely. I can also be sure that his version will please me very much. This is the 'project' I am most excited about: He has (at last) decided to do the Dark Lord. Looking at the LR 11-miniature of the Witch King I'm convinced that there will come out another outrangeous vignette. I am really looking forward to it. There's just one trouble I have to face: Production seems to have become more steadily - and this is good to know. BUT: Where can I buy the time to paint all these last releases appropriately? Please keep on.
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Post by ddaines on Oct 28, 2005 17:40:36 GMT
Hey, have you checked out the preview image that Chris has provided - it may only be a head and shoulders, but dare I say it without bias, Chris's sauron looks a darn sight more menacing than the film version and i liked that interpretation. DD ;D
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Post by Axe99 on Oct 29, 2005 6:50:21 GMT
Heh, I'd like to be able to say I'm not biased, but it's hard to tell . But I definitely like it. A lot
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Post by ddaines on Oct 29, 2005 23:22:24 GMT
Don't know if its just me (I've sunk a couple), or the image, but I'm sure the 'mouth' area of the Sauron photo almost looks like the Alien creature ~ The most vicious looking creation out there! As said, it may just be the effects of the drink and the light but its looking good. (photo is under the Fellowship heading by the way).
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Post by Gildor on Oct 30, 2005 13:45:49 GMT
Well I agree with you, the mouth of the armor is a crossing of Alien or Predator character Also I got a glimpse of the whole master figurine from Chris (I suppose it will be posted here soon) and the whole vignette with Elendil and Narsil, along with Gil-Galad and Aiglos is amazing. Sauron is holding a sword rather than a mace which is also quite impressive, and sauron full armor is ... well.. as impressive as the LR11-20 nazgul series! I hope you'll get the full pic here soon along with some painting
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Post by ddaines on Oct 30, 2005 21:20:40 GMT
Can't wait!
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Post by Theobald on Nov 1, 2005 17:04:16 GMT
is there any news on the advancement of the vignette? maybe a preview pic or release schedule, and also the price? I also would like to find information (esp. pics) of the chosen and planned miniatures. As I have read some of the fellowship members do have access to such things (e.g. sketches of the Sauron-Vignette - or at least of details). So, where can I get this information? I really don't know.
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Post by Gildor on Nov 1, 2005 18:30:04 GMT
I received a mail from Chris Tubb with some preview of the master of Sauron vignette because I had suggested it, but I am not sure if I can share it here or maybe Michael has it already? One of the pics I received is the same as on the web site, and the other one is the whole scene. If I have authorization from Michael or Chris I can send the pic if you want but I don't know if I have the right yet. In his mail, Chris said that there is a total of ELEVEN pieces for the whole vignette, and that this has been one of the most difficult piece he has ever made.
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Post by Wendy on Nov 1, 2005 18:58:56 GMT
Oh my. Eleven pieces! Michael, is there a guesstimate on how much this will cost?
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Post by Gildor on Nov 1, 2005 20:03:26 GMT
well i wondered the same thing when I read the mail from Chris Tubb, but when I saw the pic... well, I don't want to do some marketing but... I considered that no matter the price, THIS scene would be priceless... (hopefully, if everybody likes the aspect of this Sauron, maybe we could convince Chris that this is the right way mithril should represent him and be able to have a Single Sauron figure in armor for the 54mm range (if this range still exists? it has been quite some times since the last 54mm were released..) but this is another debate...
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Post by Wendy on Nov 1, 2005 20:36:11 GMT
Dang. I'm a fan of Gil-galad, so I would like to purchase it, but I'd rather not take out a second mortgage or some such action.
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Post by Theobald on Nov 2, 2005 15:41:31 GMT
Thanks, Gildor, for the information. From your reply I really can imagine that this vignette will be marvellous. Thank you for that suggestion. (Though it didn't seem to be easy to convince Chris Tubb to do it, as Micheal pointed out - so, many thanks to Micheal, too !!!) By the way the published photo does not reveal much, but it keeps me as restless as ddaines.
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Post by Theobald on Nov 2, 2005 15:48:36 GMT
Thank you, Gildor, for the information. From your reply I can imagine that the vignette will become marvellous. It was a brilliant suggestion. Though it seemed to be hard to convince Chris Tubb to do it, as Michael pointed out once. So, many thanks to you as well, Michael.
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Post by sherie on Nov 2, 2005 17:15:12 GMT
I have total faith in Chris' ability to bring the scene to life! And I can't wait to see it. Of course I'll have to have one no matter the cost. After all, this is my only hobby and I don't mind feeding my Mithril addiction! LOL
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Post by ddaines on Nov 3, 2005 17:29:13 GMT
;DMichael, was there an actual release date for the Sauron vignette - I can't locate the thread where you mention the figure arriving this week. Does this mean it still has to be moulded, cast etc. or is it ready to go? Only reason for asking is because I'm away for next two weeks and really just wanted to be sure of securing one should I be away during the release period. regards, DD
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Nov 4, 2005 13:38:41 GMT
;DMichael, was there an actual release date for the Sauron vignette - I can't locate the thread where you mention the figure arriving this week. Does this mean it still has to be moulded, cast etc. or is it ready to go? Only reason for asking is because I'm away for next two weeks and really just wanted to be sure of securing one should I be away during the release period. regards, DD I was promised the figure last week but it was delayed so I have no choice but wait. Chris is sending the molds as well so we 'should' be able to make the figures immediately. I pass on any info I get, but things happen that I have no control over.
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Post by ddaines on Nov 4, 2005 16:00:33 GMT
Thanks Michael. DD
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Post by krossbone on Nov 5, 2005 10:02:48 GMT
Hi What is the index number of the sauron vignette? Is it M435? bye laurent
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Post by Gildor on Nov 6, 2005 19:24:15 GMT
from Chris tubb, the figurine is entittled : MS435 "Sauron at Gorgoroth"
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Post by barliman on Nov 8, 2005 16:40:12 GMT
I've also been sent a picture of the completed vignette by Chris, and can confirm what Gildor has said - it's superb. Whatever it costs, I've got to have one...
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Post by sherie on Nov 16, 2005 15:43:32 GMT
Any news on the Sauron release yet?
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Post by ddaines on Nov 20, 2005 20:30:46 GMT
;D Absolutely brilliant, can't wait for it to arrive!
david
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Post by Axe99 on Nov 21, 2005 19:38:03 GMT
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Post by ddaines on Nov 24, 2005 20:34:23 GMT
Can anyone tell me if the 'Nine' were present at this final showdown between sauron GG & Elendil. I can't remember reading it anywhere and the brain is too tired to research the subject, but if anyone out there with a Tolkien encyclopedia inside their head could give a clue it would be greatfully appreciated. Why - I want to incorporate the new Sauron vignette into a slightly larger diorama using other figures and I figure the nazgul figures would look good, but only if it is accurate to Tolkien's history of ME. Anyhow, if the post is running the figure should arrive in the next day or so, can't wait!! DD
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Post by Gildor on Nov 24, 2005 22:57:27 GMT
I don't remember the Nine being present at all during this battle.. I checked the books and could only find that the kings of men who became Nazgul did so around 1600 SA, and the first occurence of Nazgul is from SA 2250 or so... they were overthrown along with Sauron at the end of second age, and went into hiding until later in TA, when one of them conquered the realm of Angmar and was so-called Witch-King of Angmar. In Second Age they are said to have served Sauron from afar... but there is absolutly nothing that mentions them as being around during the battle of the Last Alliance.... and well, if that was so... I suppose they would have lead batallions, riding their fell beasts.... there was much to do during the battle, they probably could not have been around Sauron when he was defeated. They were linked to the ring, and the ring was not in peril when Sauron was thrown down by Elendil so they could not foresee the danger...well, in my opinion
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Post by ddaines on Nov 24, 2005 23:29:53 GMT
Thanks Gildor for the quick response - I didn't think that was the case, I just thought (hoped) it would be a nice use of the nazgul in their armour etc. from the limited edition figures.
I could use artistic license and put them in anyway, but I think I will keep the scene as accurate as possible and use them elsewhere.
Once again thanks for taking the time to redearch and reply.
David.
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