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Post by Axel on Oct 2, 2016 13:26:46 GMT
The problem with the gate was indeed different, but still already clearly stated when it was voted for.
In this case the problem is different, but that does not make it less problematic: Anything that looks impressive as terrain will be too expensive to be created as part of the Fellowship-line, while the items that are created will probably be comparatively small. I am willing to pay 20 EUR for a unique character, but I am not sure wether some terrain with a similar volume will be worth it to me.
We do have some (few) terrain pieces - the oathstone (MS258), the gate of Mazarbul or the tomb of Balin to name but some. Nice pieces all. Not something that I would want to skip a miniature for, though, or pay 20 EUR. Well, in half a year, when the mini comes out, I will be back and claim defeat. Either by being wrong because the pillar is a spectacular piece, or because it is not. The latter would actually be worse.
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Post by Theobald on Oct 2, 2016 16:49:02 GMT
... in half a year, you said. You must be kidding, Axel.
Mind that by now there is a massive backlog of 17 months in the Mithril production (I dared to count those three months combined in late 2015 as two each). Yes, indeed the promise by the company to cope better with such a backlog seems to have failed completely, as the same backlog widens each month. So the winning suggestion tomorrow will just add a new month and will not pass on a new release of a figure, no matter if architectural or figurative piece. So tomorrow there will be 18 months of backlog, right? - That must be more than a year.
No, Axel, I will not comment on those weird decisions about the "West Gate" again, as I once did elsewhere. (For those not knowing about this, I did totally agree with Axel, especially after finding out the weight of the base of the MX-UP.)
Pieces for terrain in the MS series (ah, sorry, Mz range?), why not. You can suggest a brick for a castle each month, so in the end ... you know ... maybe? ... why not ...
Sorry, but I felt like having to criticize this or that today.
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Post by hsf62 on Oct 2, 2016 18:40:15 GMT
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Post by mindx2 on Oct 2, 2016 19:50:32 GMT
What happened to the Moria door? That would be a WONDERFUL addition to the line!!
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Post by Theobald on Oct 2, 2016 20:38:51 GMT
it was .... the door, it became Morlas, prince of squirrels that was, as far as I can remember ...
hsf62, you're right, of course, better have half a gate than just one brick ... but wasn't the west-gate carved from stone and not made from bricks?
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Post by barliman on Oct 2, 2016 21:00:18 GMT
Meanwhile, the race is still not over - as I said once before. One voter has defected from the Isengard camp to the Mumakil officer, and a new voter has appeared and opted for the latter also. Exciting, isn't it?
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Post by Axel on Oct 2, 2016 22:08:48 GMT
mindx - indeed, the Moria westgate is a wonderful piece of terrain. But unsuited as a Fellowship release, as in this case you either need the full flank of the mountain or just the door - and in the case of the door it was invisible from the outside, so there would be nothing but a flat surface. Its either too large or too uninspiring as a miniature - though the fellowhip before the door (Gandalf sitting in a thinker pose would be a fresh suggestion) would be nice, or some parts to create the arms of the watcher. I am totally with you that I want the scenery. Just not in this line. Here somebody took a shot at it: s1325.photobucket.com/user/Celevue/media/Tampere%20Model%20Show%202013/Modelshow13_zps7d0ed8df.jpg.htmlWe should promote a terrain line - especially with digital sculpting and resin casting becoming almost a common art, it should be possible to gain some ground here. Though I am not sure wether this is covered by the licence
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Post by Axel on Oct 2, 2016 22:16:24 GMT
theobald... 17 month? Ouch. After my absence I am back for less then a year, and I think that I already saw the Dain-suggestion I made back then - this cannot be a year ago. Naturally I do not have it in hand yet (nor anybody else), and as it is (afaik) part of the digital designs it was probably made earlier then it should by law of sequence. Still, it seems that we take Entish patience here...
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Post by mindx2 on Oct 2, 2016 22:29:54 GMT
mindx - indeed, the Moria westgate is a wonderful piece of terrain. But unsuited as a Fellowship release, as in this case you either need the full flank of the mountain or just the door - and in the case of the door it was invisible from the outside, so there would be nothing but a flat surface. Its either too large or too uninspiring as a miniature - though the fellowhip before the door (Gandalf sitting in a thinker pose would be a fresh suggestion) would be nice, or some parts to create the arms of the watcher. I am totally with you that I want the scenery. Just not in this line. Here somebody took a shot at it: s1325.photobucket.com/user/Celevue/media/Tampere%20Model%20Show%202013/Modelshow13_zps7d0ed8df.jpg.htmlWe should promote a terrain line - especially with digital sculpting and resin casting becoming almost a common art, it should be possible to gain some ground here. Though I am not sure wether this is covered by the licence Still not clear why you think it is unsuited as a Fellowship release. As far as the door, it should of course have the moonlit images showing. I also don't think it needs the mountain flank around it just like the M286 didn't need the Moria walls around it.
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Post by barliman on Oct 3, 2016 7:33:36 GMT
Delighted to see that the Isengard pillar has prevailed, but look forward to seeing the mumakil officer suggested again next month.
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Post by Theobald on Oct 3, 2016 11:33:44 GMT
Congrats, Master Barliman.
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