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Post by Michael O'Brien on Sept 1, 2006 12:16:23 GMT
Welcome to another exciting chance to add your ideas and dreams to Mithril's LOTR miniatures. Post your suggestions here. ONE per member. This month we are looking for 'pure' single figures, not mounted figures or double figures, and certainly not vignettes. Past examples are King of the Dead, Cirdan the Shipwright and Helm Hammerhand. Please keep this in mind when explaining your idea. Please add some quotes about where it is mentioned or give descriptions to promote your suggestion. If you drum up support NOW, the you have a much better chance when it is time to vote. This suggestion board stops taking new ideas at 16.30 GMT on the 19th. Voting will begin on the 20th of September (first round) in the afternoon (GMT). I cannot give an exact time. I have to get the vote list from Chris and sometimes delays happen. Second round voting will commence on the 26th. This will last until the 2nd of October. All votes will end at 16.30 GMT or BST (british standard time). You may add comments about other members suggestions as well. If you post any suggestions elsewhere it may not be seen or credited. Please post any suggestions in English. If you have any questions then post in the other thread provided for such questions. GO TO GALLERY PAGE: www.mithril.ie/Fellowship/gallery.html
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Post by Will the Fey on Sept 1, 2006 16:29:44 GMT
Beregond the Guarg of the Citadel[/b] “The Guards were robed in black, and their helms were of strange shape, high-crowned, with long cheek-guards close-fitting to the face, and above the cheek-guards were set the white wings of sea-birds; but the helms gleamed with a flame of silver.” —The Return of the King Can this month be his time... There is a Christmas Figure 2002 (54mm) version of Beregond, but somehow I don't like it. And it's 54mm scale anyway. www.mithril.ie/Fellowship/2002_beregond.html I'm sure that Chris can do him much better. My favorite illustration of The Citadel Guards is John Howe's painting Watchful Peace. That's how I picture them in my mind. www.john-howe.com/portfolio/gallery/details.php?image_id=503The man with the winged helm could be as a guide for the design of the Citadel Guards of Minas Tirith. PS. I know those "wings" are difficult to sculp and especially cast. But that's a worthy challenge to Chris and mouldmakers...
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Post by Axel on Sept 1, 2006 18:52:38 GMT
Originally suggested by Mithrandir (credentials and nr1 to him if he wins):
BOMBUR
without attendents, to fit the single-mini theme, but in his later incarnation: sitting in noble garments in a specially made chair or canapee, so that he will fit to any decently sized table (like those of the old "Prancing Pony" set).
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Post by barliman on Sept 1, 2006 19:01:41 GMT
Although I have a soft spot for Flossie the Lossoth and suspect I'll vote for him if he's put up again this month (unless, of course, something else takes my fancy more...), I shall nevertheless make a suggestion of my own - just in case.
I propose Sharkey on the road in Dunland, an embittered old man 'clothed in rags of grey or dirty white', leaning on a staff and filling his pipe from Merry's tobacco-pouch.
I think, though I'm not certain, that Sharkey may have been suggested before (though if he was, I don't recall by whom), so I'll apologise straight away in case I've inadvertantly 'stolen' someone else's idea!
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Post by Wendy on Sept 1, 2006 20:10:42 GMT
I was going to suggest Bombur on behalf of Mithrandir...I guess great minds think alike, Axel. (Though some might say Bombur doesn't qualify as a single mini.) Well then, I'll have to think of another one off the cuff... Oh, this probably doesn't qualify (too big?), but I suggest the troll from Sam's song.
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Post by bombadil1963 on Sept 1, 2006 21:21:02 GMT
Persistence seems to be crowned by gold and jewels some times!
Ok! Then I guess it´s time for Narvi!
Builder of the West Gate of Moria! A friend to Celebrimbor! A magic craftsman!
There´s not said so much about him in the tales . . . But he would never be made in a normal Mithril range. And so this is my hope.
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Post by savage727 on Sept 3, 2006 10:48:45 GMT
I would like to take a page out of Barli's book and resubmit my suggestion of Aragorn as a companion piece to the King of the Dead.
The Return of the King
Chapter II - The Passing of the Grey Company - page 53
And thus, just ere midnight, and in a darkness as black as the caverns in the mountains, they came at last to the Hill of Erech. Long had the terror of the Dead lain upon that hill and upon the empty fields about it. For upon the top stood a black stone, round as a great globe, the height of a man, though its half was buried in the ground. Unearthly it looked, as though it had fallen from the sky, as some believed; but those who remembered still the lore of Westernesse told that it had been brought out of the ruin of Numenor and there set by Isildur at his landing. None of the people of the valley dared to approach it, nor would they dwell near; for they said it was a trysting-place of the Shadow-men and there they would gather in times of fear, thronging round the Stone and whispering.
To that Stone the Company came and halted in the dead of night. Then Elrohir gave to Aragorn a silver horn, and he blew upon it; and it seemed to those that stood near that they heard a sound of answering horns, as if it was an echo in deep caves far away. No other sound they heard, and yet they were aware of a great host gathered all about the hill on which they stood; and a chill wind like the breath of ghosts came down from the mountains. But Aragorn dismounted, and standing by the Stone he cried in a great voice: 'Oathbreakers, why have ye come?' And a voice was heard out of the night that answered him, as if from far away: 'To fulfill our oath and have peace.' Then Aragorn said: 'The hour is come at last. Now I go to Pelargir upon Anduin, and ye shall come after me. And when all this land is clean of the servants of Sauron, I will hold the oath fulfilled, and ye shall have peace and depart for ever. For I am Elessar, Isildur's heir of Gondor.'
I like the idea of Aragorn standing near the Black Stone hailing the Dead. He would look magnificent next to The Fellowship piece - The King of the Dead.
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Post by ddaines on Sept 3, 2006 18:10:38 GMT
I'll go for the single figure of the Mouth of Sauron's side-kick holding up the mithril shirt, sting and cloak as his boss gives Aragorn, Gandalf and crowd the terms for seeing Frodo again.
A sketch appears on the galleries page, minus of course TMOS. ;D
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Post by twrich on Sept 3, 2006 18:20:08 GMT
Very impressive description, savage! After all of my carping last month, I am duty-bound to suggest the Lossoth Hunter again. But I don't consider it my idea, as many other members have suggested/supported it over the past months (I'm surprised it hasn't been suggested yet this month)! I'll fore-go a description, as I would be happy to see it produced in any manner that Chris sees fit. I do encourage anyone who likes the Lossoth Hunter idea to still submit an idea so that we have as many to choose from as possible.
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Post by barliman on Sept 3, 2006 22:06:36 GMT
On the subject of Lossie, is anyone familiar with the 19th-century costume plates of Albert Racinet, in his 'Le Costume Historique' (there's a modern UK/US English edition called 'The Historical Encyclopedia of Costume')? If so, take a look at his rendition of tribesmen of 'Barbarian Europe'. Figures 1-3 and 5-8 are all worthy of interpretation as Lossoth. (It's at times like this that I wish I had a scanner. I really must catch up with the 21st century one day.)
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Post by Theobald on Sept 4, 2006 12:59:07 GMT
Well, as for the Lossoth I really liked the idea of having him together with a sledge. But the suggestions for this month wouldn't permit that, I think.
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Post by Ori on Sept 4, 2006 14:06:52 GMT
What will be Gilraen and young Aragorn without ARATHORN? I would like to suggest ARATHORN dressed to battle the orcs in one of the excursions with Elronds sons.
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Post by Gildor on Sept 5, 2006 6:46:48 GMT
I suppose it's time to resubmit my idea of the elf-lord in battlegear (the same idea as the months before : Standing elf, in armor, arms crossed, which could be Glorfindel during 1st or 3rd Age or any other elven lord of the first Age. The idea of a separate cape, and sword in scabbard by the side is left to Chris convenience if it comes to win, but if they were separate pieces that would allow for several possible combinations and several uses of this figurine not necessarily unique as a character, but quite unique in its design )
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Post by Hammershield on Sept 6, 2006 6:45:29 GMT
Well, Barli, I did suggest Sharkey a few months back. We've already had that silly discussion on the forum whether a member has 'dibs' on a certain idea or not. Go for it. I like it.
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Post by khador on Sept 6, 2006 10:05:42 GMT
Well, I suggest another time my ranger of the north in tracking pose (with one knee on the ground).
As Savage727, I like idea of Aragorn with King of the Dead, but I think a M-serie would be released 2-3 time per year with the same theme as a MS release.
For example : MS : King of the Dead M-serie : Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Ghost Warriors of Dunharrow, members of Grey fellowship
MS : Bolg and Beorn M-serie : Gandalf and Bilbo at battle of five armies, wargs, Goblin fighting with dwarves, bats, elves at war, Thranduil in armor, Bard of Esgaroth in fight...
MS : Cirdan M-release : Elven sailors, Galadriel, Celeborn, Elrond, Bilbo, Gandalf, Frodo at grey havens... and a elven boat in 3-4 parts
I think it will be a excellent way to recruit new fellowship members.
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Post by gandanor on Sept 6, 2006 11:04:04 GMT
Bard of Esgaroth could kill Smaug only because a bird helped him. He showed him the vulnerable place of Smaug.
My suggestion is: Bard with a bird on his shoulder.
He should look as similar as both figures M132 and M235. He looks upwards. The bird has the beak at his ear. The bow is in his hand. But he has not stretched him.
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Post by mshartmann on Sept 6, 2006 11:14:56 GMT
Hmm, well, we already have Elendil and Isildur but what of Anarion? Son of Isildur, founder of Minas Anor, bearer of the crown of Anor that was crushed when he fell at the siege of Barad Dur. I picture him, just before his death, perhaps looking up at the tower holding his sword aloft, wearing his crown, with a defiant look on his face (although it does seem a bit awkward to wear a crown into battle, he has to in order for it to be crushed by a stone).
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Post by barliman on Sept 6, 2006 14:59:29 GMT
Hi, Hammershield - I thought I could vaguely remember seeing Sharkey come up once before, and I'm more than happy for you to resume responsibility for him!
Michael - if you're reading this, please note when it comes to listing the figures that the Sharkey idea is Hammershield's, not mine - I'm merely his promotional agent...
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Post by Halbarad II. on Sept 6, 2006 15:31:24 GMT
Here is my suggestion for septembers single Miniature:
Time for a female figure again.
Lady Galadriel with elven harp, at the farewell scene from Lorien. You can have a look at our gallery page, I have send a sketch to Michael: I have drawn her frontside and backside very likely in the fashion of number M1. With that beautiful braid. The harp surely won't have that strings you can look though, perhaps it can be like that other elf girl's harp or better with sculpted strings like that Prince August Bard.
She is singing of leaves of Gold and the beautiful song that ends with Namarie
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Post by ddaines on Sept 6, 2006 16:26:45 GMT
Although I have submitted an idea, I would be happy with this Galadriel suggestion to go with the Swan boat diorama I am making (Michael has posted an in progress picture somewhere) and a specific figure for this scene would be welcome - otherwise I shall have to scratch-build a harp. Nice one H.
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Post by Wendy on Sept 7, 2006 1:15:59 GMT
Troll sat alone on his seat of stone, And munched and mumbled a bare old bone; For many a year he had gnawed it near, For meat was hard to come by. Done by! Gum by! In a cave in the hills he dwelt alone, And meat was hard to come by. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I can't help but hear Tolkien himself singing this...
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Post by Hammershield on Sept 7, 2006 8:36:43 GMT
mshartman writes: '...but what of Anarion? ' Well, there is one. It is in fact one of the prettiest miniatures in the whole Mithril range. Check it out: mmp.perilousrealm.com/images/M274.jpg
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Post by ddaines on Sept 7, 2006 11:55:25 GMT
Troll sat alone on his seat of stone, And munched and mumbled a bare old bone; For many a year he had gnawed it near, For meat was hard to come by. Done by! Gum by! In a cave in the hills he dwelt alone, And meat was hard to come by. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I can't help but hear Tolkien himself singing this... Funny enough Wendy I think I have a recording of this in full by the man himself. It is an audio tape not a CD and I think it was produced by the BBC. Tolkien has a very 'rich' voice if that is the word, with plenty of rolling R's (again if that is the correct term to use). I can find out the name of the tape producer but it is fairly old I believe and may no longer be available. Dave
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Post by barliman on Sept 7, 2006 14:28:54 GMT
A CD collection of Tolkien reading passages from LOTR and his other works was released in 1998, but I think even that's now hard to get (try eBay) - however, the LOTR parts are available as part of a special edition of LOTR which includes the books as well (albeit at a pretty hefty price...). Funnily enough, I actually prefer the version in the 'talking book' of LOTR read by Rob Inglis.
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Post by Wendy on Sept 7, 2006 20:21:22 GMT
I have said recording. It's a single tape that (not surprisingly) I bought on eBay. It seems there is a set of 4 CD's with the man himself and Christopher reading more passages, but I haven't gotten around to buying it yet. I put it on the Christmas list last year, but someone bought me the wrong thing.
My favorite reading is the Elbereth song, but it was so neat to hear Sam's song actually with a tune!
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Post by gilgaladtolkien on Sept 7, 2006 20:26:53 GMT
My suggestion:
Another figure from "The Hobbit": Tom the Troll
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Post by mshartmann on Sept 7, 2006 22:40:39 GMT
oops, I stand corrected - thanks! This month I will happily sit by and see what develops.
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Post by hsf62 on Sept 9, 2006 0:13:01 GMT
I suggest something we only have two in the whole Mithril range. Vampire Thuringwethil Saurons servant in human form.
Tolkien's vampires are batlike monsters with great wings and claws like iron. It is possible that they are a class of Maia, lesser in power than the Balrogs but no less evil. Sauron had the vampire Thuringwethil as a servant.
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Post by Theobald on Sept 10, 2006 13:22:24 GMT
Strange it is ... two vampires? - I just know about M324 Mirnimor and Carangil ... but one of those isn't a vampire, I think. So, who is the second one? Huuuooommm ... maybe I missed parts of the old M-series .... Rhuuoommm .... no, I didn't. hsf62, which one do you think that is? Thuringwethil ... what a name? As I know Gorthaur of Barad-Dûr, whose name some beings spelt "Thû", I do not remember the other letters of that name ... "ring",yes, I know about that, the rest is obscure to me ... or I might have forgotten ... long time ago that was, I think. Huuuuoooommmmm let me think...... about "wethil" for a while ..... huuooommm
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Post by Theobald on Sept 10, 2006 14:06:32 GMT
Huooommmmm, the thesaurus reveals "wethil" as anarchy - which makes sense for that name, I think. So the name of the lady is a telling name, I think. "Thû-ring-anarchy" might be a possible translation. But I'm not that sure about all your languages. Huuuoooommmmmmm .... rethink a while.... But the idea of a woman as a new miniature does interest me much. Just as there are these Elvish maidens around at the moment. Did anyone here calculate the number of males and females released by Mithril? Must be more males than the others, I think. That really is, what Ents worry about. huuuommm
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