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Post by Michael O'Brien on Jan 19, 2009 14:44:23 GMT
This vote will end on the 27th at 12.00 Noon GMT.
Please choose TWO options as this vote is for 2 months (Dec and Jan). This is an OPEN vote so you can see how the vote is progressing before you cast your votes.
The two most popular ideas will be produced. Please remember that if we have a tie, I will cast the deciding vote.
Please vote for 2 ideas (tick two boxes).
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Post by Axel on Jan 19, 2009 18:24:04 GMT
Hmm. Just four options vor my two votes?
Well, there is just one option left that I really WANT (while I will still get and probably like any), so one vote is lost, if not in translation then in reduction.
I assume that including the next step would have meant ten.
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Post by Axe99 on Jan 19, 2009 20:08:10 GMT
All good suggestions - bring 'em on
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Post by Lluis on Jan 19, 2009 21:54:42 GMT
Done. Sadly, I've had to choose only two I love all of them.
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Post by barliman on Jan 20, 2009 7:50:11 GMT
I'm with Axel - I'd assumed that since we have two months combined we'd have had six figures to choose between, so I'm rather disappointed. Having six would have given a couple of the less successful first round figures a chance at winning for a change. And I find myself not everwhelmingly excited about the final four either, considering how many great ideas there were in round one. Still, I've done my duty and voted for what I deem the 'best' two.
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Post by twrich on Jan 20, 2009 9:36:39 GMT
Darn, I voted for one choice, clicked on the button to see what the toal was, and then tried to cast my second vote. But I wasn't allowed back to the voting page. Perhaps this happened to other members in the first round.
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Post by barliman on Jan 20, 2009 11:49:29 GMT
There's certainly a sizeable discrepancy between voters and votes cast again - as many as 14 unused (and therefore presumably wasted?) votes thus far.
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Post by jdbrown55 on Jan 20, 2009 14:16:10 GMT
Out of all of these I only like one of them, but I have to vote for two. Well, I have picked the second one and I noticed too that some only voted once. If you notice we have 26 voters, but only 42 votes? We should have 52 votes! That is 10 wasted votes as Barli mentioned.
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Post by Theobald on Jan 20, 2009 18:43:47 GMT
First of all I do agree with Axel and Barliman about the "complexity" of this choice.
Then, twrich, I sorrily had to face the same experience you made.
Well ... Then I'm missing information at the head of the thread about who at last made the choice for that four (and why). So far I was used to read a short note in the introductory entry about Chris' decision. So ... "I've done my duty and voted." I would like to quote Barliman.
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Post by barliman on Jan 20, 2009 21:47:17 GMT
It sems to me from what's been said above that this round of voting has been rather compromised by the imprecise instructions regarding exactly how members have to vote in order for both votes to register. Is there some way that those members who've been inadvertantly deprived of one of their votes can be provided with a way of registering them retrospectively, Michael?
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Post by ferisam on Jan 20, 2009 22:27:33 GMT
Go for the female orc....
i was thinking of suggesting it myself, someone was quicker ;D
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Post by Halbarad II. on Jan 21, 2009 11:28:30 GMT
Very interesting to see us getting another Witch King Seems to be very popular the buddy... - Witch King mounted - Witch King on fell beast with Eowyn & Merry - Witch King versus Gandalf at the gate of Minas Tirith - FS - Witch King in armour LR series - Witch King as Bonus first year - FS - Witch King versus Glorfindel - Salute 2007 - Witch King from Online Roleplay Computer Game - Witch King in true form - FS ... Do I have forgot one? LOL Yes, theres that 54 mm size guy! Sorry but he get's definitely NOT my vote this time (maybe a year later...) Forward Ladies - anyone! I really love the cover art of MERP Dol Amroth of the female assassin and I think she will rock if made as a figure
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Post by estel on Jan 21, 2009 12:28:19 GMT
seems, that I did not understand a word, I just could give one vote, no one more . Well I just like one female character of this suggestiosn and liked much more the other suggestions of the first round. Why another witchking??? Witch king in bed, Witch king drinking, Witch king yawning and so on. A female Orc? Well I said, what I think about that. A female assasin? not so bad, but a real Tolkien figure is: Celebrian, the Lady of Imladris!!
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Post by agodet on Jan 21, 2009 12:47:14 GMT
Hi, I hope that "Lord of the Nazgul" won't won because a lot of them were produced (the list in the mail of hwolf). I vote for the two "ladies" ... Love, love, love ... ;-) By Arnaud
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Post by Theobald on Jan 21, 2009 13:54:28 GMT
It appears to me that in the past there have been quite some suggestions that might have been inspired by GW- -releases. I think that this Gold-Fellowship should more clearly stick to Tolkien's writings. There have been so many fantastic ideas in the past considering this. So why not list up former suggestions that did not win to create one or more "month for old suggestions"? With this I also can imagine that Chris Tubb's work load could be taken into account as it must be him saying, for example, "This is a month for single figures only." "Next June a mounted figure can be chosen." or "Next November it's time for a new vignette." This is just an idea, of course ... and sorry, maybe not the right thread ... but as I'm logged in already ...
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Post by Halbarad II. on Jan 21, 2009 14:35:52 GMT
I understand that we have to cast the two votes in one step, once submitted, vote is done for the member.
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Post by Theobald on Jan 21, 2009 16:20:19 GMT
so it seems to work ... but who did know?
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Post by Axel on Jan 21, 2009 19:38:44 GMT
Perhaps we should introduce a month for suggestions that have been forwarded at least four times (or something like that). While not yet successfull, some members here seem to really want them :-)
Just from memory there are Merry and Bombur.
Yep, once you vote its done. If you only cast one vote, its gone. I wonder if that even works if you don`t click any choice. That could do for the 12 missing votes, though I deliberately only gave one vote. Whoever wins will hit my shelf anyway, and I have no specific preference.
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Post by estel on Jan 22, 2009 10:57:41 GMT
It appears to me that in the past there have been quite some suggestions that might have been inspired by GW- -releases. I think that this Gold-Fellowship should more clearly stick to Tolkien's writings. There have been so many fantastic ideas in the past considering this. So why not list up former suggestions that did not win to create one or more "month for old suggestions"? With this I also can imagine that Chris Tubb's work load could be taken into account as it must be him saying, for example, "This is a month for single figures only." "Next June a mounted figure can be chosen." or "Next November it's time for a new vignette." This is just an idea, of course ... and sorry, maybe not the right thread ... but as I'm logged in already ... Dear Master Theobald, I totally agree to what you said. It's a very very good idea having an old sugestions-month- vote!! Spoken well!!
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Jan 22, 2009 12:41:49 GMT
It sems to me from what's been said above that this round of voting has been rather compromised by the imprecise instructions regarding exactly how members have to vote in order for both votes to register. Is there some way that those members who've been inadvertantly deprived of one of their votes can be provided with a way of registering them retrospectively, Michael? What is imprecise about 'Please vote for 2 ideas (tick two boxes). ' If you tick ONE box instead then you cannot later vote again. I stated multiple times that you have 2 votes, and the issue was also repeated in the first round (hence my multiple requests for 2 votes not one this time.) If you have any questions about the system you should email me before voting. I cannot change it later. If you do not tick a second box then you did not vote for a second option. This issue will not be repeated until Christmas next year. I am sorry that members did not read or understood the purpose of a 2 month vote. There was a significant gap between the 4 finalists and the remainder of the ideas. Most of the other ideas had less than 4 votes, out of over 180 members so I thought that it was not popular enough to add in. That was the idea of a second round, to eliminate the less popular ideas and focus on the most popular ones. I try to please as many members as I can, which I believe you know as a fact by now, but I cannot guarantee that every decision I make will suit everyone.
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Post by barliman on Jan 22, 2009 15:34:17 GMT
The imprecision comes from the fact that you didn't say that both boxes had to be ticked AT THE SAME TIME, and you can see from reading the comments above that, sadly, some members didn't realise this.
Happily I wasn't one of them...or I'd have been really ticked off.
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Post by twrich on Jan 23, 2009 8:16:16 GMT
Michael you said: "What is imprecise about 'Please vote for 2 ideas (tick two boxes). ' If you tick ONE box instead then you cannot later vote again. I stated multiple times that you have 2 votes, and the issue was also repeated in the first round (hence my multiple requests for 2 votes not one this time.)"
I haven't heard anyone blame you for missing their second vote. Although your second sentence above warning of ticking only ONE box, had it been expressed anywhere in your posts for either round, certainly would have been more explicit than "Please vote for two ideas, etc . . ."
For myself, I take full responsibility for being curious after my first vote to see what the tally was on that choice before attempting to go back and make a second choice. Unfortunately, several of our members made the same mistake in both rounds. You, undoubtedly, are much more familiar with this polling software than most of us. And certainly you must have more to do than sit around figuring out how best to word a post regarding the voting rounds.
And as this is a "Forum" graciously provided for us by Mithril to express our hopes, thoughts, and happiness; as well as our disappointments, please do not take any comments personally. Perhaps you don't, but sometimes your responses to those "unhappy" comments lead one to wonder if you do. I am certainly not "mad" that I missed out on a second vote, just disappointed. That disappointment is small compared to the happiness I have that I can even vote in the first place.
So next year, if we use the same software and year-end voting format, I'll know better.
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Post by barliman on Jan 23, 2009 9:39:44 GMT
Very well put, master Twrich.
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Jan 23, 2009 11:33:22 GMT
I apologise about my previous response, I will state in future that issue with only ticking one box results in losing the chance to vote again. Thanks Tom for reminding me not to take these issues personally. I had a fairly stressful day yesterday and probably overreacted to the issue.
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Post by gilgaladtolkien on Jan 23, 2009 13:27:02 GMT
Hi Michael,
I think there is noting to apologise. You are making a great job, thanks for that.
Lothar
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Post by Halbarad II. on Jan 23, 2009 16:33:16 GMT
Yes, thousand thanks to Michael for the great job He does!
I suggest that we should make a voting month where only smaller figures such as Dwarves or Hobbits are to be suggested.
Why not?
Hobbits are the main characters of the stories and Dwarves are always short in numbers
And perhaps it will help Chris a bit, doing a smaller figure one month
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Post by twrich on Jan 23, 2009 17:38:56 GMT
No problem Michael, we all know that without you there likely wouldn't be a Fellowship Gold, and that our ideas for Mithril pieces might never be realized.
Thanks for the great job you do.
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Post by ddaines on Jan 23, 2009 19:17:44 GMT
Glad that's sorted then , it's not always easy to express your thoughts on a post like this when you are trying to type in text whether complaining or praising. Not at all like talking to someone direct. Perhaps we should all nip into the Pony for a couple of pints ;D
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Post by erchamion on Jan 23, 2009 20:36:26 GMT
Yes, thousand thanks to Michael for the great job He does!I suggest that we should make a voting month where only smaller figures such as Dwarves or Hobbits are to be suggested. Why not? Hobbits are the main characters of the stories and Dwarves are always short in numbers And perhaps it will help Chris a bit, doing a smaller figure one month I like the idea A "little" figure to help Chris and our pockets as advancement a return to figures on horseback or vignettes...
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Post by barliman on Jan 24, 2009 7:44:29 GMT
I wonder if it really is any easier to design a Dwarf-size figure than a Man-size figure? - with my eyesight it would be harder! Still, it's a good idea, and it might even give poor old Bombur a better chance of victory. At least there'd be no Witchking suggestions that month...(unless someone suggested 'Witchking as a toddler with rattle'...)
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