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Post by Michael O'Brien on Aug 24, 2003 14:46:20 GMT
We will every week check this list and pass them on to our sculpting and modelling men and so your wishs could become reality with a new range in the future. We are licensed for the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit books so any character mentioned in those titles are possible. Not all wishs have to be serious and we enjoy a few 'unusual' suggestions as long as they are tasteful. If the lists on one thread is getting too long we will delete some to speed up this board.  |
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Post by Jason on Aug 26, 2003 22:47:32 GMT
I would love to see more in the way of coherent war bands (leader, standard bearer, troops in varying action poses, etc.), such as a war band of Riders of Rohan, Gondorian Troopers, Southrons, Isengard Orcs, etc.
I think Mithril will begin to see a trend of people using its miniatures for table top war games rather than just collecting or role playing. They make for a truly elegant battlefield that Tolkien would have been proud to play on.
The Battle of Mirkwood miniatures are definitly a step in the right direction (leaders and various troops in action poses). Hopefully, Mithril will continue this with the evil troops in this collection and with further similar armies/warbands.
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Post by Axel Schudak on Aug 28, 2003 13:12:39 GMT
Imrahil and the Knights of Dol Amroth...
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Post by jason on Aug 28, 2003 22:40:15 GMT
Imrahil and the Knights of Dol Amroth are a great suggestion! Put them in action poses though, and include a distinct leader (Imrahil obviously), a standard bearer and many knights in varied positions with varied weapons.
Such miniatures would be attractive to not only collectors who simply keep their miniatures on a shelf but to those of us who actually use the miniatures for war gaming.
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Post by Axel on Aug 29, 2003 7:36:03 GMT
Along with the battle of Mirkwood I think a series o "Battle of Dale" would also be an asset both for the fans of Tolkien and for Tabletop gamers. This could include the dwarven armies of the Lonely Mountain and the Iron Mountains, the Men of Esgaroth and Dale and some of Thranduilds Elves pinned against the Eastern hordes. I remember that there was an article in one of the old Tengwar on it. I certainly would like to see old Dain in his battle armour, along with his guard, and some eastern style Mordor cavalry.
Another option with the same theme is the battle of the five armies, with lots of characters to throw in.
My personal favorite would be to have a construction set or a specific archetype, read: A collection o heads, torsos, limbs and equipment that can be used to build own poses. That, however, requires quite some additional work from the collector and I fear it does not offer great marketing possibilities. It would probably better fit into the Prince-August line anyway, with archetypes being: Orks, Vikings, Knights, Men At Arms, Dwarfs, Woodelves, etc.
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Post by jason on Aug 29, 2003 14:45:57 GMT
Alex and I think alike. I think he and I are representative of many Mithril collectors of the day. Hopefully our suggestions regarding miniatures more suitable for war games will not go unheard.
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Post by Peter Fey on Aug 30, 2003 3:44:10 GMT
We are licensed for the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit books so any character mentioned in those titles are possible. How about characters from The Silmarillion ? Does your license permit it ? |
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Post by Peter Fey on Aug 30, 2003 3:52:02 GMT
Me too, I vote for
Imrahil and the Knights of Dol Amroth!
YES, make those knights please!
Greetings from Finland
Peter Fey, a wargamer
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Post by aelfwine on Aug 31, 2003 15:46:35 GMT
Hmm.
Here's an idea. It's sneaky.
Mithril make excellent Tolkien minis based on the books. GW make pretty good Tolkien minis based on the movies, and laterly, the books.
Since ICE doesn't make MERP anymore, GW has coherent wargame rules. Mithril doesn't.
So.
How about making a set of the Mithril "warrior" (ie, non character) minis that use the round plastic based that the GW minis use? (other wargame rules sets other than the Games Workshop Lord of the Rings ruleset, such as that WOTC whatever it was (Chainmail) use rules based on the mini having a round plastic base.
I've converted one or two Mithril figures to go with my brother's LOTR collection, and they look really cool beside the hordes of plastic Uruk Hai and Mordor Orcs...
Might be worth doing.
By non character figures, i mean figures such as
- Rohir Spearman
- Isengard Orc Archer
- Dunland Chieftain
- Half Orcs
- Orcs of Mordor
- Lorien Bowmen
etc
etc
Just a thought that's been bothering me for a few months.
Gavin
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2003 17:23:48 GMT
I would wish to see produced a representation of the various clans of Hobbits in attendance at the A Long Expected Party. A collection of Bagginses, Boffins, Tooks, Brandybucks, Grubbs, Chubbs, Burrowses, Hornblowers, Bolgers, Bracegirdles, Goodbodies, Brockhouses, and Proudfoofts would make for a lovely throng to compliment Bilbo's Farewell Speech (LR22). Perhaps each one could come with party accessories. (Mugs, bottles, cakes, gifts, etc.) It would make for a spectacular diorama! In contrast I would also like to see a representaion of various Hobbits with war accoutrements set for The Scouring of the Shire.
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Aug 31, 2003 22:53:40 GMT
Sorry but the license only covers those characters mentioned in the other four books
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Post by dani on Sept 4, 2003 18:39:57 GMT
Hello!
I think that a beutiful (or better, terrific) series could be one based on the "Path of the dead". There may appear Aragorn leading the march of the undead army that may include on foot warriors and also undead riders (as i remerber from the book)
Also may be nice resume the viggnete series, including the death of Boromir, and, why not, the destruction of the ring.
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Post by Will the Fey on Sept 7, 2003 0:25:53 GMT
Make a new and much bigger ent and GIANT eagle.
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Post by jason on Sept 7, 2003 4:27:15 GMT
I agree with Peter. We need a better flying giant eagle. Perhaps it could be produced in connection with the Battle of Five Armies group.
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Post by hammershiled on Sept 9, 2003 15:15:25 GMT
This is an excellent idea. Not very long ago I created a scenario called the 'Fell Winter of 1311", where fielded large packs of white wolves overrunning the North Farthing. I converted about 50 Mithril hobbit miniatures to individual poses fielding farm implements and bows. It turned out to be a very popular game when I ran it at a convention. You can take a look at www.shapingmiddleearth.com/Gaming/FellWinter/FellWinterNavigation.htm if you are interestewd. It has all the troops and hobbit holes I used for the village of Oatbarton. A friend of mine is running the Battle of Bywater where we will get to reuse this hobbit "warband". I would wish to see produced a representation of the various clans of Hobbits in attendance at the A Long Expected Party. A collection of Bagginses, Boffins, Tooks, Brandybucks, Grubbs, Chubbs, Burrowses, Hornblowers, Bolgers, Bracegirdles, Goodbodies, Brockhouses, and Proudfoofts would make for a lovely throng to compliment Bilbo's Farewell Speech (LR22). Perhaps each one could come with party accessories. (Mugs, bottles, cakes, gifts, etc.) It would make for a spectacular diorama! In contrast I would also like to see a representaion of various Hobbits with war accoutrements set for The Scouring of the Shire. |
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Post by hammershiled on Sept 9, 2003 15:17:41 GMT
I have been wishing for the Battle of Dale miniatures ever since that excellent article Chris Tubbs wrote in the Mithril newsletter several years ago. And troops and characters from the various fiefdoms of Gondor. Along with the battle of Mirkwood I think a series o "Battle of Dale" would also be an asset both for the fans of Tolkien and for Tabletop gamers. This could include the dwarven armies of the Lonely Mountain and the Iron Mountains, the Men of Esgaroth and Dale and some of Thranduilds Elves pinned against the Eastern hordes. I remember that there was an article in one of the old Tengwar on it. I certainly would like to see old Dain in his battle armour, along with his guard, and some eastern style Mordor cavalry. Another option with the same theme is the battle of the five armies, with lots of characters to throw in. My personal favorite would be to have a construction set or a specific archetype, read: A collection o heads, torsos, limbs and equipment that can be used to build own poses. That, however, requires quite some additional work from the collector and I fear it does not offer great marketing possibilities. It would probably better fit into the Prince-August line anyway, with archetypes being: Orks, Vikings, Knights, Men At Arms, Dwarfs, Woodelves, etc. |
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Post by jason on Sept 9, 2003 22:25:23 GMT
Hammershield, your scenario was very impressive. Everyone should take a look. Are the powers that be listening to our pleas for more miniatures suited for wargamming? I can't tell. Mr. Obrien?
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Post by Hammershield on Sept 10, 2003 23:39:18 GMT
Tolkien Enterprizes is the company which has the bought the rights to amrket the contents of the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. The Silmarillon, the History of Middle Earth and other texts by Tolkien is still owned by the estate of JRRT. It seems like the estate doesn'twant any secondary interpretation to spring from JRR Tolkien's work.
As I understand the terms of the license agreement Tolkien Enterprizes has signed with various miniature makers (Mithril, Games Workshop and previoulsy Icon and others), the collectors market and the Wargaming market are separate licenses. Games Workshop has according to my sources secured the rights to produce wargaming products based on the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. It is even more complex than that since I think they have signed an agreement with New Line that all miniatures etc. have to conform with the artwork and other background material from the movie. I am sure GW pay top dollars for their license and I ams sure they guard it ferociously from infringements.
Mithril, and our esteemed moderator might be able to correct me if I am wrong, has a license to produce collectors miniatures (RPG dito ?). I could keep ranting about why it sucks that GW is monopolizing on a market where others, like Mithril and Chris Tubb, have managed to make such a wonderful and 'original' interpretation of Middle Earth.
THe good thing is that it can't be Mithril's fault if people starts wargaming with miniatures they have created for the collectors market, righ? ;-)
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Post by jason on Sept 11, 2003 18:40:49 GMT
Right!
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Post by vandolftheold on Sept 13, 2003 15:50:46 GMT
I am looking for the Faramir figure that is listed in the catalogue as M377, but in the Web listing of Rangers the picture of a Ranger firing a arrow is listed as M378 Mablung. Is there a type O are a mixup in the Catalogue?
Vandolftheold
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Post by M377 missing on Sept 16, 2003 13:24:24 GMT
The catalogue has a type O and the present M377 had been moved to the Mithril Classics (MC39). So it is available from that page on the Mithril website.
The present M378 is Mablung firing bow.
Michael O'Brien
webmaster
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Post by Will the Fey on Sept 18, 2003 21:21:36 GMT
Please make new Gondorian/Numenorean soldiers & officers
based on M272 Isildur and M276 Numenorean Infantry.
Those are good figures - M278 or M292 are not!
M278 & M292 got awful pose and fixed swordarms.
Use separate weapon arms in the future, please.
It makes miniature a lot easier to convert.
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Post by aelfwine on Sept 23, 2003 21:00:31 GMT
I have been doing some research (googling, to be honest) and i see that there's a lot of cooler out of print minis that could be brought back as part of the "battle of mirkwood" series. eg, M214 www.iespana.es/mithril/M214.JPG (i especially like this one) or M210, M213, or M214 It seems the idea of a semi seperate wargaming range of Mithril figures might be a great idea. They don't have to be linked to any particular system, just be there to be used by table top wargamers. the Mithril figures are beautifully designed, with amazing detail and artistry. The other thing would be for Mithril to consider re-"printing" some of the RPG type miniatures to go with the Decipher RPG. Many of those sorts of figures, eg The Northman Ranger, Dwarven scout, et al, are suitable for a: RPG miniature representations and b: look quite "Tolkienish" Oh, also, perhaps it would be useful (he says after examining the big pile of Mithril minis he bought online) to ship the wargame compatible versions without bases attached. they can be glued on. What's more superglue between friends? :-) Gavin |
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Post by MB on Oct 2, 2003 3:19:17 GMT
I think that it would be great if Mithril made a Return of the King set with the Knights of Dol Amroth, Corsairs of Umbar, and Easterling warriors!!!!!!!
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Post by Will the Fey on Oct 2, 2003 9:35:41 GMT
Yes, I vote for The Return of the King / a new Minas Tirith (LT) set too!
I hope that you make (32mm scale)
Belegond – Royal guard of the Tower of Calimehtar
and I'd like to see other Gondorian Royal Guards / soldiers too.
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Post by Hammershield on Oct 2, 2003 14:08:31 GMT
Yes, something based on the Chris Tubbs excellent Gondor article in the Mithril newsletter would be excellent and long awaited for. It had such a real feel to it.
Speaking of Mithril newsletter , it would be nice to see the army of Dale plans realized. Andthe troop types of Saruman army.
The Grey company on horse with Elladan and Elrohir would make a nice series.
Most of all I think I would appreciate figures for the Kinstrife since it would invovle figures of so many different ethicities. Castamir the Usurper with sons; Umbardrim, Easterling,Haradrim and Khand mercenaries; Guard loyalists and marines rebels, the True King with his queen, Eothraim northmen of Rhovanion, citicen soldiers of Osgiliath, Mianas Anor, Minas Ithil and Pelargir etc, etc...
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Post by Gildor on Oct 9, 2003 1:52:09 GMT
It's been some times I have been thinking about it ... Mithril owns the rights for LOTR and the Hobbit, but does not the LOTR mention the battle of the Last Alliance and thus Isildur, Elendil etc... (you even released a set for the Last Alliance... and I don't know if this one had licence problems such as the Legend of Turin set you released...) But could you make some new set of this battle, and this time, with Sauron in Battle Armor (if GW was able to produce it with its licence covering the same books as yours) you should be too, no? A figurine of Sauron in armor during the Last Alliance, before the ring was cut from his finger... is definilty missing... Also, I think that the Knights of Dol Amroth and Imrahil is a good idea... and also... Thorin & Co. you never released the company of 13 dwarves in Bilbo, if I remember well   Please, consider the Sauron figurine idea.... |
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Post by Hammershield on Oct 9, 2003 14:27:21 GMT
I really like the idea of Thorin Oakenshield and company, but as travellers and fighters in the Bo5A
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Post by MB on Oct 10, 2003 1:04:22 GMT
I would like to see a new set of the Mithril Vignettes with scenes from the different books.
For the Hobbit, you could do a scene where the dwarves show up in Bilbo's house and everything is messed up, or a scene in the hall of the Wood Elf king with imprisoned dwarves or the wine barrels, or a scene in the Lonely Mountain with the dwarves and there treasure.
For the Two Towers, you could have a scene in Orthanc with Saruman and Wormtounge, a scene near Fangorn Forest where Eomer killes Ugluk, or a scene where Frodo and Sam are taken to Faramir's secret waterfall.
For Return of the King, there could be a scene where Aragorn travels through the Paths of the Dead, or a scene with Beregond and Pippin, or a scene with Imrahil, Eomer, and Aragorn fighting in the Pelenor Fields. (Just some ideas)!!!
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Post by mike on Oct 10, 2003 16:08:54 GMT
As has already been mentioned several times: Knights of Dol Amroth and Rohir horse archers. Warband sets of these and soldiers from the various pronvinces of Gondor with different types of shields. (not round).
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