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Post by Theobald on Jan 27, 2006 15:21:33 GMT
Huommmmmm The explanation for the selection of the January vote made me a bit curious. Well, just a bit. I suggested the mounted Imrahil and added the idea of supporting him with a command, because I took up the idea of new series that might follow the Lossarnach warriors. Of course I thought of some more figures than those few I suggested. What is a prince and a command without ... well you know. I think David will like this idea I thought it over for some days ... huom.... So the only thing I can do is to start a new thread, hoping that Michael keeps us well-informed - as he always does. I am not in a hurry to learn more about the next M-releases and plans about it and I do not want to put haste on anybody here. But if there is someone who can answer this, well huoooom , I would be pleased.
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Post by ddaines on Jan 27, 2006 22:01:30 GMT
;DCharge on those Knights Theobald! I'm always trying to think ahead of possible dioramas and they are long overdue whatever design form they may take. I was really dissapointed they didn't make an appearence in the film, so as an M series they will do nicely. As I posted before I hope that those ideas that don't make it in the Fellowship might make it in another range. David
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Post by Theobald on Jan 28, 2006 15:20:01 GMT
Well, David As to me, the Dol-Amroth-support is a fundamental part of the battle on the Pellennor Fields and about Minas Tirith - as all of Gondorian armies were. Such as Lossarnach was amongst them. Here it is where I still adore the castings of these (as there are so many varieties - without changing the original castings - let us just think of the possibility of adding an axe- or a swordhand to a figure, I bought the second set, too, by the way - and this is where it makes sense if you want to have (*sorry*) an army that can furthermore be individual with each figure. Isn't it that what makes MIthrils? - Individualities, even in terms of warbands. Back to the (left out) Dol-Amroth-support in the film ... Huooommmmmmmmmmm I would like to say a lot. By the way GWS released those "Dol-Amroth Knights" as an additional production to the films. Well, I've got them all, unpainted ... I didn't like them - but you can have each of them, just let me know. It's quality why I stick to Mithril, and to me that's it. By the way, I've also been buiding dioramas for years ... Oooops ... it has become too personal now here. Sorry to all reading this ... it wasn't meant as a personal profiling ... me thoughts just went off
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Post by Gildor on Feb 9, 2006 10:45:17 GMT
Is there some info coming out about this new MX Troll figure that should be released soon? mostly the availability ? Also, are the vignettes an exclusivity of the gold fellowship now, or does Mithril plan to release regular series vignettes again in the future?
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Post by Theobald on Feb 10, 2006 15:19:06 GMT
As far as I know the MX-Troll went its way to production. I am sure Michael will keep us informed about everything, as he alsways does. As for the vignettes ... well, I just thought about the fact that there's only one person to do the sculpturing - which means the basic and most difficult work to be done (Chris Tubb). Huuuooommmmmmm .... I think we shouldn't put too much haste in the production of new releases, as we all like the quality of the miniatures very much. Imagine one person keeping up with the monthly production for the Gold-Fellowship, then producing an enormous amount of figures for the M-range (just remember the Lossarnach-series ;D ) and additionally making the MX-miniatures. Huuuommmm....hommmm I think this is more than a lot of high-skilled work for one person. ...... hom. That's why I really don't miss any more vignette releases in the M-series. I have to admit that I can't keep up with painting ........... huom, but maybe I'm too slow with that ;D
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Post by aelfwine on Feb 10, 2006 16:47:56 GMT
I would love to see a Southron or Easterling army group for, uh, diorama purposes (yeah, that's the one).
I am not a "proper" Mithril collector - I don't try to collect every model, in its blister etc, etc. I buy what appeals to me.
I am still a little uncertain about the Lossarnach figures (those aren't "great axes" by any stretch of the imagination), and I am not entirely convinced by the Gondorian Royal Army "look" either.
I wrote a long thread on The Last Alliance about how Gondor should be redesigned. It would be interesting to discuss that idea in the context of Mithril.
Gavin
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Post by Gildor on Feb 10, 2006 17:13:11 GMT
well Theobald, i am not in a hurry , just curious to know... actually if the mithril releases were slowed down it would let me breath a bit too I collect all the figurines to be sure to have them all...and actually I have all the mithril range, but I am a SLOOOW painter, in ten years of painting/collecting, I have only painted 350 references so far... which is approximatly only the half of what has been released (all series together)...
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Post by ddaines on Feb 10, 2006 17:31:52 GMT
:DYou've painted how many! Good effort actually. I've been collecting from the start, but not quite reached that total, but having said that i do collect other kits such as the big 1/6th & 1/4 scale 'garage' kits, but I always drift back to the Mithrils.
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Post by Theobald on Feb 11, 2006 14:52:49 GMT
hmmmmmmmmmmmm... sorry.... I'm not online that often here - there are other things to keep me busy.
Let me try to sum it up:
aelfwine, the need (I also do feel) for the extension south of Minas Tirith has started as we know from the Lossarnach-M-series. Axemen and swordsmen, yes they are. The axes are quite small - compared with miniatures revealed by other compaines - (like "fenryll" or others - I always wondered how these bodies could carry any armour or weapons). HUUuuuoooomm........
You said you're not a "proper" Mithril-collector .... I'm sorry about that, but all I know about this are the releases by GWS . There were many releases of "Southern men", which were from Harad or the far more East. - I dare to say I painted all of them .....
.... huooooommm but it's not Mithril........hoooom.
well, about the "Gondorian-army-look", as you called it, I was more surprised when seeing the third part of the trilogy in a cinema ..... huuuuuooommm ... those Gondorians are like knights taken from the Middle-Ages of Britain ( as you can see their armour in Leeds now after it was taken from the Tower in London to the "Royal Armouries Museum" (15th century) .....
huuuuuoooommmmm ... this is why I would suggest reading the "Tengwars" again because there another image of Gondorians is explained and partillay described.
Hummmm...... I don't hope to have been offensive ..... what did I write? .... (hope I wasn't).... huuooomm.
Hooom .... well, if there's anything I could do for you.....
just let me know ..... hom.
Theo
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Post by Axe99 on Feb 15, 2006 20:05:04 GMT
A very interesting thread. On the by, Aelfwine, I wouldn't say that you're not a 'proper' collector, although you may not be a diehard collected . There's nothing wrong with only collecting the Mithrils that appeal. I'm exactly the same way in fact. I just like all of 'em, is all.... Personally, I like Mithril's (and Chris's) look of the Gondorian army - while they're not 'great' axes in the high fantasy sense, I always had a feeling of Tolkien's world as a bit more gritty and realistic, and would expect the axes of the normal soldiery to be a bit more standard. That said, I'm no axe expert, even if given my user id perhaps I should be....
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Post by ddaines on Feb 16, 2006 13:04:26 GMT
I'm in agreement with Axe here on a couple of points. First I'm not a die hard collector, I just can't stop buying them!! I do have gaps in the collection mainly the warbands and one or two others, but I can't justify the secondary market price of some of these items that come up now and then on ebay and the like. Second, one of the things that always put Mithril among the greats (apart from the eye catching undercoat, good overall designs etc.) is the scale of the weaponry. These weapons look realistic in scale - none of these ridiculous Barbarian swords that must weigh as much as the carrier, and axes that only Conan the Barbarian could lift etc. In the real world, what with armour, mail, helmets, shields etc. the provision of an axe the size of a small car would render most soldier's (except perhaps the 'old Numenorians) ability to wield it almost impossible. I know this is 'fantasy', but Mithril have got it right where weaponry is concerned (in my view). Don't forget a soldier has got to arrive on the battlefield and be fit to fight, not knackered. This isn't 'knocking' your point of view Aelfwine by the way, but I was always put off collecting a lot of other companies products by the silly weaponry, plus I tend to build dioramas/vignettes rather than wargame so I guess I come from the what looks right is right camp. regards, David.
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Post by aelfwine on Feb 16, 2006 14:54:41 GMT
My point about Gondor was that the figures look too clean or stylised. (And the movie Gondor was way out, just for the record). I'm not sold on the poses either, but mainly I thought the uniforms to be somewhat too clean. And I'd bet money that the Gondorians should be wearing mail (black, most likely).
More to the point, I think the cleaner, more uniform armour is a product of the MERP era mid third age, when Gondor still had its empire. War of the Ring era Gondor strikes me as a rougher thing - with more in common, look wise, with Rohan - just a different colour scheme and helmet design.
Also, the men of Lossarnach are described as shorter and darker than the other Gondorians - not something reflected in the minis.
As for not being a "proper" collector - I am not rushing out to get Queen Beruthiel, for example. But I have been buying Mithril on and off since my youth. (And PA moulds long before that!).
Gavin
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Post by aelfwine on Feb 16, 2006 22:30:08 GMT
Just an aside: by "great axes" I meant a decent sized battle axe, not a humongous stupid looking thing. Gavin
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Post by Hammershield on Feb 22, 2006 13:53:24 GMT
I agree with Gavin there, the axes wielded by the Lossarnachrim are not battle axes IMO. They look more like something you split wood for the fire with. That said I like the general design of Gondorian troop _as_they_were_written_in_Tengwar_ back when mother had Nils (as we say in Sweden). Just like Gavin says, these troops, while reasonably uniform should still be less uniform and not as well equiped as the garrisons of Minas Tirith.
Also, one of the unique and appealing things about Mitjrils is that eventhough they are in the fantasy category they are not sculpted in the the heroic scale look. They could pass for or even surpass the best historical miniatures (i.e. Perry Miniatures).
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Post by aelfwine on Feb 22, 2006 18:20:30 GMT
Oi, Hammershield...when's that site of yours going back up?
G
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Post by Hammershield on Feb 23, 2006 8:12:19 GMT
Any day now.
Seriously, as soon as I have time to spend on it, give me a month or two.
H
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