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Post by Michael O'Brien on Mar 3, 2017 11:34:42 GMT
Sorry for the initial delay. I forgot about St. Paddies day when I put down March 17th. So as we are off that day I extended the list until today. Chris has kindly sent me the approved list of ideas this morning. Now it is regrettable but a few ideas did not make the list, and Chris has included his explanation below: "Hobbit and fox suggestion will really constitute 2 figures and Herumor is a Silmarillion character, so both are disallowed." ~ Chris Tubb. This is a blind vote so you will only see the results after you add yours. The vote ends in a weeks time. I hope that gives everyone a fair chance to participate. Please don't forget you can comment on any idea to champion it or point out why it is not suitable to win (be polite).
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Post by Axel on Mar 4, 2017 7:37:19 GMT
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Post by barliman on Mar 4, 2017 21:33:33 GMT
Isn't this MS503?
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Post by Theobald on Mar 5, 2017 1:23:55 GMT
Right you are, Barliman, very right indeed. The leaflet of the MS503 release, called "Brand of Dale". Just have a look at it. Sorry, dear Axel ... no harm intended, of course, but that figure, it does exist in the Mithril- range.
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Post by Axel on Mar 5, 2017 8:15:14 GMT
And I have it in my collection, of course - Old age is getting the better of me So I will gladly get out Brand to accompany Dain, and change my suggestion for this month to: A Fox, sniffing at a sleeping HobbitOn their first night out Frodo, Sam and Pippin "curled up in their cloaks and blankets ... A fox passing through the wood on business of his own stopped several minutes and sniffed". As the Hobbit will be mainly a rolled heap of cloak and blankets, with only the woolen head showing any features, I hope this still counts as single mini. Its of course up to Michael to decide that.
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Post by barliman on Mar 5, 2017 15:21:50 GMT
I don't think it's old age, Master Axel (I seem to recall suggesting Hirluin long after he'd been released...). It's merely proof of the fact that (a) so many figures have been released by Mithril that it's hard to remember all of them, and (b) it's getting harder to think of anything worthwhile that hasn't! That's not to say we've run out of things to suggest entirely - merely that suggesting something original stretches the brain rather more than it used to - and old brains aren't keen on being stretched.
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Post by Theobald on Mar 5, 2017 20:31:40 GMT
Barliman is a wise man from my point of view. I can support each and really every word in his latest entry and enjoy that it wasn't his last entry. Hmmm poor joke that was. Sorry.
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Post by barliman on Mar 6, 2017 9:46:37 GMT
Not sure about this one - it may be deemed too big for a single-figure month, but since it's "architectural" it's also somewhat simpler than an anatomical figure. It's size, of course, will depend on Chris's interpretation:
A Watcher of Cirith Ungol
The Watchers were the statues, possessed by malignant spirits, that Sam encountered as he approached the entrance to Cirith Ungol:
"The Two Watchers ... were like great figures seated upon thrones. Each had three joined bodies, and three heads facing outward, and inward, and across the gateway. The heads were vulture-faces, and on their great knees were laid clawlike hands. They seemed to be carved out of huge blocks of stone, immovable, and yet they were aware: some dreadful spirit of evil vigilance abode in them. They knew an enemy. Visible or invisible none could pass unheeded. They would forbid his entry, or his escape."
The Watcher in Peter Jackson's third LOTR movie was a product of Weta Workshop's design team, and is a very good interpretation indeed - in fact it's exactly the way I'd always visualised them - which will make it an interesting challenge for Chris, since in order to avoid a "cease and desist" order from Saul Zaentz's company it needs to be an entirely different visualisation. Nevertheless, the Watchers are an extremely memorable aspect of the "Return of the King" and should surely be included in the Mithril range.
Best of all, for Mithril, is that there's every chance people will want to buy two!
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Post by khador on Mar 8, 2017 18:48:43 GMT
An other architectural piece : a pillar of Meduseld, with horse head carved, shields hooked and entrelac
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Post by Thingol on Mar 9, 2017 12:07:43 GMT
Dúnedain warrior watching with the hawk on his hand ..... with reclined arms and shield on the ground next to him
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Post by Gerold on Mar 10, 2017 15:47:36 GMT
I think it's the time for the hornblowers! A Half-orc Hornblower of Saruman's Armyto complement the Half-orcs in the normal Mithril range. Almost all other races have their hornblowers or some kind of musiciens, but not yet the half-orcs (except for the drummer in the warband, that was never released). Attachments:
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Post by Halbarad II. on Mar 11, 2017 21:51:46 GMT
Well, I see there is the Half-orc Hornblower suggestion again, very good!
But therefore I see no sense in two orcish hornblowers suggested in one month. I cancel my Moria orc blowing Horn, save it for later and suggest instead:
Gil-Galad, Elven High-King in royal robes
We already have several figures of Gil-Galad dressed as an armoured Elven hero, (see M269, MS435 and LR10) but no figure of this famous King of the Elves in his fine royal elven robes with crown and all. His clothes defenitely are much finer than the outfit of Thranduil, King of the Woodelves, more the style of Celeborn of Lothlorien (M137) or even Thingol (M217) of the Tale of Turin series, if that is possible to realize. And he has the noble appearance of the Noldo Elves of course. Gil-Galad was the bearer of the Elven Ring Vilya until his death at Mount doom, when he gave the Ring to Elrond Halfelven. Gil-galad was the last High King of the Noldor in Middle-earth.
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Post by picard on Mar 14, 2017 14:40:20 GMT
Thror King of Durin's Folk, King under the Mountain.
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Post by Halbarad II. on Mar 14, 2017 16:11:47 GMT
Dear Picard King Thror has won already in July 2016!
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Post by picard on Mar 14, 2017 16:40:23 GMT
Ok. Sorry. Frerin (Third Age 2751 – 2799, aged 48 years) was a dwarf of the royal line of Durin's folk. The second son of King Thráin II. His older brother was the Dwarven hero and future king Thorin II Oakenshield, and his younger sister was Dís. In the Battle of Azanulbizar, he was in the first assault of the vanguard that was led by his father, which was thrown back with loss. Frerin and the rest of the vanguard were driven into a wood of great trees near lake Mirrormere. It was there Frerin met his end, along with his kinsman Fundin, and many others.
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Post by Mornedhel on Mar 16, 2017 12:08:33 GMT
Herumor, Númenórean follower of Sauron
"And Sauron gathered to him great strength of his servants out of the east and the south; and among them were not a few of the high race of Númenor. For in the days of the sojourn of Sauron in that land the hearts of well nigh all its people had been turned towards darkness. Therefore many of those who sailed east in that time and made fortresses and dwellings upon the coasts were already bent to his will, and they served him still gladly in Middle-earth. But because of the power of Gil-galad these renegades, lords both mighty and evil, for the most part took up their abodes in the southlands far away; yet two there were, Herumor and Fuinur, who rose to power among the Haradrim, a great and cruel people that dwelt in the wide lands south of Mordor beyond the mouths of Anduin."
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Mar 16, 2017 18:42:56 GMT
Due to my own mistake (unforgivable) I forgot that St. Pats day is the 17th so the vote will be done on Monday instead.
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Post by Halbarad II. on Mar 16, 2017 22:44:38 GMT
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Post by Theobald on Mar 16, 2017 23:11:54 GMT
Er, sorry Michael, you really did forget about the exact date of St. Patrick's Day? - Unbelievable, unforgivable indeed. Though I hope you and all the Mithril staff enjoy this day on that island over there. Anyway best excuse ever. An Irishman forgot the date of St Patrick's Day ... never heard that before.
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Post by barliman on Mar 17, 2017 18:37:54 GMT
I'd forgotten all about this list. A worthwhile reminder!
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Post by twrich on Mar 20, 2017 4:41:09 GMT
If not too late, I will suggest
Female Lossoth on Bone-Skates
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Post by mindx2 on Mar 20, 2017 20:54:41 GMT
I'm really hoping the Watcher at Cirith Ungol wins. We have little to no architectural pieces in the Mithril line so I hope this is the beginning of a trend where we see more of these uniquely Middle-Earth type pieces.
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Post by Axel on Mar 20, 2017 23:05:08 GMT
I have mentioned this before, and will do it again. Mithril, as it currently works in this Fellowship, is unsuited for architectural pieces. Imho absolutely so. The material, sculpting, target market and production cost simply cannot yield what I do expect from terrain and architecture. Take a look at these here, all in the range of ~20-30 EUR tabletop-world.com/cottage.phptabletop-world.com/NewWaterWell.phpwww.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=2715&osCsid=g431vp2l43shnhdoljm6706if7stronghold-terrain.de/index.php/terrain/houses/bauernkate.htmlminimonsters.eu/en_US/p/Dwarf-Warrior-Statue/113minimonsters.eu/en_US/p/Dwarven-Gate/125or even modelearth.azurewebsites.net/products/halfman-front-3-the-slaughtered-goat/www.ziterdes.de/konigsfelsen-6012753.htmlThe Mithril way really does not offer the options to create affordable terrain. More so, any pillar we get is a character not made, and probably at the price that gives us a complete house. That said, the Watcher sounds like an interesting suggestion. But I doubt that it can be similarly impressive like this: tolkiensring.proboards.com/thread/943/wk8-bk6-cirith-ungol-watchersat an affordable price. Sorry, I do WANT architecture for Middle Earth. I simply do not believe this fellowship is the way to get it. BTW: A sleeping hobbit rolled into his cloak counts as a seperate mini, so Fox and Hobbit is out? Well, if the man says so. This means I just have to vote for the Dunadan with his Hawk. ...
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Post by mindx2 on Mar 20, 2017 23:31:13 GMT
I just don't see it as there being "a character not made" just because the line offers a few architectural pieces. The Mithril line continues, and will most likely keep continuing, so characters will still be made. There isn't a number limit as to how many will be made. Personally, I see unique Middle-earth architecture as fitting in quite well and it is more exciting than another generic Dunadan, Orc, Gondorian soldier, etc. Don't get me wrong as I still enjoy each character that is voted on and see them having a place on my shelf but the thought of The Watcher (WatcherS as I'll be buying two!), Meduseld Piller, maybe even the Moria secret door one day really gets me excited!
I see these architectural pieces as being uniquely Tolkien/ Middle-earth not generic cottages, houses, mills, etc. As you linked to, there are many of those available. However, The Watchers aren't generic and can only be made by Mithril as a license holder.
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Post by Axel on Mar 21, 2017 7:24:31 GMT
Speaking of "license" - I am not even sure wether the Mithril license covers architecture. Collectors miniatures surely include statues, though. Luckily I am not the one to decide upon that...
>the Moria secret door An atypical example, alas. That one already was voted upon and won. And was then not made, as - if you read the book - it is just a plain wall without anything to mark it unless you see the inscription. By its nature that one will be hard to sculpt - a simple transfer or tons of painting skills would work here, but still the model is just a plain mountain wall.
>"a character not made" The Moria gate won by one vote versus a mounted version of the M16. That was indeed a character not made, and with the rarety of mounted/dual figure months and the multitude of appropriate suggestions, it will not be made. At some of us got "Morlas" out of that experience...
My main fear regarding "architectural pieces" is that I really dislike one of these - like the Dunforth-inspired pillar. I will not buy that if I dislike it just to keep my collection complete, which means that it may no longer be (and I REALLY dislike that hand-pillar by Dunforth - I hope Chris makes something that is more in the Tolkien spirit). On the other side I am quite confident after some 30 years of Mithril-collecting that I find something to like in each of his characters.
Well, enough on that topic. Vote for what YOU like and then we will see what Chris makes out of these.
Well, we will see.
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Post by Thingol on Mar 21, 2017 7:25:46 GMT
My attitude about the architecture of Middle-earth is the same as this one written by Axel...Mithril had the opportunity long before the start line for dioramas. He did not do that. After the Lord of the Rings movies, a new and different style was started in understanding of the design of buildings and other decorations in Tolkiens world. I think this Watcher at Cirith Ungol will be just a waste of money for the company. It would certainly cost a lot, and collectors who purchase the Mithril figure's counts in very small numbers... Unfortunately
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Post by Luthien Tinuviel on Mar 21, 2017 12:01:45 GMT
A Fox, sniffing at a sleeping HobbitOn their first night out Frodo, Sam and Pippin "curled up in their cloaks and blankets ... A fox passing through the wood on business of his own stopped several minutes and sniffed". As the Hobbit will be mainly a rolled heap of cloak and blankets, with only the woolen head showing any features, I hope this still counts as single mini. Its of course up to Michael to decide that. Just a pity it was not accepted. Designing a hobbit in a sleeping bag is not a lot of additional work beside the fox. Soemtime Chris is difficult to understand ;-(
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Post by Mornedhel on Mar 21, 2017 13:19:54 GMT
If not too late, I will suggest Female Lossoth on Bone-SkatesTen years since last Lossoth as MS. You got my vote
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Post by Halbarad II. on Mar 22, 2017 22:45:11 GMT
That said, the Watcher sounds like an interesting suggestion. But I doubt that it can be similarly impressive like this: tolkiensring.proboards.com/thread/943/wk8-bk6-cirith-ungol-watchersat an affordable price. Read more: mithrilfigures.proboards.com/thread/1527/march-2017-round-vote-open#ixzz4c66x6OdBI agree with Axel in many points, but not all. In my opinion that reference picture is not correct. In the novel the Two Watchers are located INSIDE the gateway (within the shadow of the gate), one left and one right, facing outward, inward and across the gateway. So there is no need for such oversized figures like shown in that picture. They are huge indeed according to the text, but remember they are defeated by Sam with the phial of Galadriel, so of course they seem to be huge (for a Hobbit) The size of a mithril troll should fit.
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Post by hsf62 on Mar 24, 2017 14:57:06 GMT
There have been 40 votes by 40 voters.I'm impressed!
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