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Post by Gerold on Jul 28, 2005 12:32:52 GMT
There's a test casted figure of the never released 'Isengard Army' warband for sale on ebay. It's the first time I see this figure and it looks perfect. I wonder where the owner got it from.
The Isengard army must be the only big army you didn't make a range of figures for, as you did for the Rohirrim, the Dwarves and the Mordor Orcs. I know you can't make a warband box anymore, I think many of us would welcome a blister range in the style of the M179 and M180 figures.
Isn't it possible to use the molds that were ment for the warband box, and convert them into normal M-range figures ?
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Post by ddaines on Jul 28, 2005 23:15:24 GMT
I see the figure went for £104 UK pounds - wonder how much it will re-appear for! Can't see any reason for this figure not to be released individually though!
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Post by Zoetrop on Aug 3, 2005 12:41:20 GMT
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Post by opou on Aug 3, 2005 15:06:09 GMT
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Post by Zoetrop on Aug 3, 2005 20:02:00 GMT
If I know it right than Time Machine has bought the distribution rights from Mithril, so Mithril can´t sell the old warbands again, but they can sell the Isengard Army as M- Figurines.
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Post by Zoetrop on Aug 11, 2005 20:14:30 GMT
Hello Michael,
please tell us if there is a chance to buy this great figurines from MW347 (Isengard Army) as regular M´s this or next year.
Many thanks in advance for your answer!!!!
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Aug 12, 2005 9:41:02 GMT
Hello Michael, please tell us if there is a chance to buy this great figurines from MW347 (Isengard Army) as regular M´s this or next year. Many thanks in advance for your answer!!!! As far as I am concerned the MW347 will not be made into a standard M. However this is not set in stone. Chris is keeping a very close eye on the forum.
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Post by Axe99 on Aug 12, 2005 21:08:36 GMT
Heh, well if he's watching consider this then: - G'day Chris, keep up the good work , and - consider this another post in the 'I'd sure like to get my hands on those MW347 mini's' camp
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Post by Bond...SBond on Aug 13, 2005 14:24:52 GMT
I am a doubly "cursed" Mithril collector, in that I love Mithril for both collecting AND for wargaming! ;D I evaluate everything that Chris creates with an eye towards "gamability." I personally think seeing Mw347e (and all the others developed) released as either an M series or some other series with a cunning title change away from wargaming to "Armies of Middle Earth" (or some such) would be awesome. I still have a copy of Dragon magazine with an add from Mithril declaring it's intent to issue the "Army of Isengard" as well as a Dwarf warband. Since Mithril took most of the models developed for the Dwarf warband and issued them as an M series (Thorin & Dain), I don't see why the same couldn't be done with the Isengard line (unless it wasn't as developed when the wargaming venue was dropped). From a wargaming standpoint, Middle-earth is ripe for all sorts of enjoyment...every wargamer wants to recreate such classics as the Battle at the Fords of Isen, Helms Deep, the Pelennor Fields, the Black Gate, Battle of Five Armies, etc., etc., etc.
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Post by presto247365 on Aug 21, 2005 14:10:02 GMT
I've got a fever! And the only prescription is more 1/2 orcs and Dwarves!
RX: 1) Take all figures designed for Isengard and Dwarf warbands.
2) Produce as M-series figures.
3) Repeat as required until symptoms abate!
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Post by twrich on Apr 2, 2006 20:06:59 GMT
Well, now we know these specific mini's (Mw347 set) won't comprise an "M" series, perhaps we can revisit an old idea. A half-orc "M" series with similar poses, but different enough not to reduce the collectability of the originals, would be a fabulous release!
Alas, there is only one Chris, and only 24 hours in a day!
PS. there is another Mw347 pikeman set on ebay. Hopefully someone who didn't get in on the auction by Chris will pick this up, and NOT someone who already has a set.
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Post by aelfwine on Apr 3, 2006 16:11:50 GMT
I think this goes right back to my notion of minor conversions of troop type figures, released as MC or "army" box sets figures. I only have the Helm's Deep type half orcs and I wasn't that impressed, but those half orcs on ebay looked sweet.
G
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Post by casey on Apr 7, 2006 4:07:58 GMT
Hello I'm new to this forum but as an avid collector, diorama builder and wargamer ( yes I am all three ) I would love to see some half orc figures in multiple poses. After all many different poses make the diorama more realistic.
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Post by Will the Fey on Jun 18, 2006 1:43:00 GMT
As far as I am concerned the MW347 will not be made into a standard M. However this is not set in stone. Chris is keeping a very close eye on the forum. Please make those great half-orcs from 'Isengard Army' as a normal M-series miniatures. It's a pity and shame to see such a good sculpt to go waste. I have seen pictures of some (9-10) half-orcs from that unreleased MW347 series, and they are really great. There are not many half-orcs in Mithril range. I still need many more for my big "diorama" Army of the White Hand.
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Post by Theobald on Jun 18, 2006 13:10:40 GMT
Huuooommm .... Peter, they didn't "go to waste" But I really can understand your plea. All of them are excellent miniatures as I can see ;D But re-producing them as an "ordinary" M-series is a matter I think only Mr Tubb can decide. There also might be complications with copyrights about this idea, I can imagine. - But as Michael wrote this decision "might not be set in stone". As he also confirmed, "Chris is keeping a close eye on the forum". So I think it was a good thought to remind of this idea. - I do hope my entry here confirms this How did you get the idea of a diorama of Saruman's Army? As far as I know there are about 13 miniatures released in the old M-series and the LT-series of that army (most of them wearing the "White-Hand" shield. Additionally there's the M 8 and M 9 to fit in that army, I think. With the 16 different figures offered by Chris Tubb from the unreleased Mw347 that makes about 31 different figures for such an army altogether. If you just keep in mind that from that Mw347 army still 6 different miniatures are still missing that would make 36 different miniatures. That is more than the old Army-sets of Gondor and Orcs had. Huuoooommmrhuoomm
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Post by twrich on Jun 18, 2006 22:29:19 GMT
Here is where an idea expressed by myself and others might happen in the future. Mithril might take the general poses of these Mw347 pieces and modify them slightly: weapon arm angle changed; shields, armor and helms modified; stance altered; etc . . .
There are many M series ideas competing for the time and attention of Chris, and some of these may find their way into other "broader" M releases. But I believe that if Mithril is able to continue to sell to a broad customer base, we will see additional Half-orcs someday.
As a collector and gamer, I visit the hobby shops in my area regularly and ask for Mithril products. This may mean less direct sales (profits?) for Mithril/PA in the short term, but hopefully more Mithril exposure to gamers of all sorts (and therefore greater profits in the long-term).
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Post by Hammershield on Jun 20, 2006 8:11:34 GMT
Of course we all would like to see the pike men of Isengard.
If you fellas haven't seen it, there is a great article in one of the Tengwars about the army of Isengard (and a what-if scene with Saruman Victorious entering MT), which is based on the apocryphal "The battle of the Ford of Isen" in Lost Tales. It details all the various specialized troop types Saruman had at his disposition: aforementioned pike men, shield breakers with t/h axes, light cavalry, wolfriders etc.
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Post by Will the Fey on Jun 20, 2006 10:16:53 GMT
How did you get the idea of a diorama of Saruman's Army? As far as I know there are about 13 miniatures released in the old M-series and the LT-series of that army (most of them wearing the "White-Hand" shield. Additionally there's the M 8 and M 9 to fit in that army, I think. With the 16 different figures offered by Chris Tubb from the unreleased Mw347 that makes about 31 different figures for such an army altogether. If you just keep in mind that from that Mw347 army still 6 different miniatures are still missing that would make 36 different miniatures. That is more than the old Army-sets of Gondor and Orcs had. I just can't know what is missing from unreleased Mw347 series. I don't have any of those, but you seem to have some of those, according to MMP. Those fantastic Mw347 half-orcs are not accessible on the market. Released "about 13 miniatures" ... most are released many years ago, long OoP, like mentioned M8 and M9 Dunlendings. And are therefore expensive and hard to find. (btw. Fine miniatures those two) According to MMP, there are only 9 different half-orcs. * M95 Saviga the King's Consort - * M96 Akargun the Warlock - * M118 Bill Ferny & Southron Spy !? - * M179 Half-orcs (Perych) of Saruman (2) ++ * M180 Half-orc Captain + * LO24 Half-orc of Isengard - * LT13 Half-orcs (2) ++ LO24 is 54mm, so it can't be used with 32mm figures. M95,96,118 are not suitable for Army of the White Hand.Finally there are only 5 different half-orcs suitable for the Isengard Army on the market. In addition to the Saruman's half-orcs there are some Dunlendings and orcs of course, but still quite monotonous army group is that... And it's lacking Saruman's devastating 'secret weapon' against Rohan's mounted Eored the Half-orc pikemen. [Tengwar #2]
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Post by Theobald on Jun 20, 2006 13:13:34 GMT
Huuooooomm, Peter I just read this entry. Please give me some time to answer. I will try to explain what I referred to in my last entry. - Rhuooommm, some days, please, :)because at the moment I still have to be very busy I cannot haste everything
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Post by aelfwine on Jul 1, 2006 21:58:53 GMT
I think its a great idea - especially if the new minis were a bit different from the originals. I was not a fan of the L series half-orcs, but I find they sort of grow on me. I'd buy a, uh, war-party set Gavin
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