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Post by fulvio on Sept 1, 2010 18:18:41 GMT
Someone know WHY the MW Warbands project has been cancelled? Surely not for lack of interest, if a full set of Isengard half-orcs has been sold on e-bay at the same price of a small motorcycle.
Maybe the next MX project may be something like "Southron warband" with many horsemen and camel riders, or "Khazad Dum Army" (many ferocious dwarves....)
Even if it is a true jewell, i find no use on the last MX "Unexpected party" diorama, but may be happy to expend 180 Euro on a Southron or Easterling warband. I think that many "dynamic" collectors may bear in mind this.
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Post by ddaines on Sept 1, 2010 22:02:41 GMT
It's quite a complicated one fulvio regarding what Mithril can and can't produce within their license. Somewhere either here or on the MMP site you will find the full tale, but Mithril mustn't do certain types of figure (for fear of upsetting a certain mob) and the name 'Warband' is a no-no. I'm sure someone can point ypu to your answer more fully, but it is best not to mention wargaming and Mithril in the same breath  |
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Sept 2, 2010 13:56:30 GMT
Its basically that we are NOT a wargaming manufacturer and Warbands was seen as pushing our license too far away from collectables and into wargaming. There is pressure from G**E W***S***P (give a guess) to prevent us dipping into their preceived area of the license.
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Post by Gildor on Sept 2, 2010 15:35:46 GMT
mmhh doint that in a MX would require being a millionnaire dear fulvio. Do you have an idea on the price it would cost the person who pays for this idea?
I doubt MX is the appropriate method in case of armies, even if warbands are impossible as a "single set" there can be series....
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Post by fulvio on Sept 2, 2010 19:26:49 GMT
QUOTE: "There is pressure from G**E W***S***P (give a guess) to prevent us dipping into their preceived area of the license."
...GeordiE WrinkleSboP?
These words that You've told to me raise my hatred against this manifacturer even more than i already have (if this is still possible).
OK: We all beg for news M series, if possible with models that may be used on (i tactfully removed dangerous words) "some highly mobile dioramas that represent Middle Earth battles..."
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Post by Wendy on Sept 8, 2010 14:19:10 GMT
OK: We all beg for news M series, if possible with models that may be used on (i tactfully removed dangerous words) "some highly mobile dioramas that represent Middle Earth battles..." Bene detto! |
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Post by barliman on Sept 24, 2010 15:37:36 GMT
Wasn't he a footballer?
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Post by aelfwine on Nov 16, 2010 4:33:15 GMT
Might be worth putting them out as Prince August fantasy figures now that Time Machine miniatures doesn't make them anymore.
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Post by Axel on Nov 19, 2010 21:35:00 GMT
I doubt that pushing the line by acting as Prince August rather then Mithril will do any good when faced with legal charges or the renewal of the license.
On the other hand, miniatures like "Gandalf in a wagon" certainly do not push the license of "wargames miniatures" into the realm collector items... or do they??
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Nov 22, 2010 11:55:29 GMT
I doubt that pushing the line by acting as Prince August rather then Mithril will do any good when faced with legal charges or the renewal of the license. On the other hand, miniatures like "Gandalf in a wagon" certainly do not push the license of "wargames miniatures" into the realm collector items... or do they?? Mithril and Prince August are the same company, just different product lines, we may be able to release moulds for a certain human army but Tolkien Enterprise are not fools, and follow our news and updates. Any action that looks like we are trying to circumvent our license would have dire consequences. So we would likely have to discuss any warlike mould release with them to see if we can avoid the problem. They would have NO incentive to allow us to release a LOTR type mould release that does not fall under their banner. T.E. contact me if I have failed to capitalize the first letter of a race name (Dwarf instead of dwarf), and have asked me th italic a name on a photo. They are THAT careful. We would never risk ruining our relationship with them. However that is not saying that a war band of humans or orcs in mould form is impossible. However making them as cast figures the same scale as the Mithril miniatures might be pushing the theme a bit too far. Certainly the armour, flags and style would have to be different enough to avoid them looking like they would MIX with Mithril however we release them. |
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Post by Gildor on Nov 22, 2010 18:50:48 GMT
having different bases, and heraldry could help in this case Michael , still if released under the Prince August banner, this would boost up Prince August notoriety of course but it would not let Mithril be more widespread of "known" to people who don't know it yet...
and indeed, releasing moulds of Mithril is certainly , as you said, not even to be considered
still there are ideas I submitted to Lars about other kinds of releases that could help a lot and I don't think T.E would be against it.... it's about Tolkien related FURNITURE releases...
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Nov 23, 2010 14:02:14 GMT
having different bases, and heraldry could help in this case Michael , still if released under the Prince August banner, this would boost up Prince August notoriety of course but it would not let Mithril be more widespread of "known" to people who don't know it yet... and indeed, releasing moulds of Mithril is certainly , as you said, not even to be considered still there are ideas I submitted to Lars about other kinds of releases that could help a lot and I don't think T.E would be against it.... it's about Tolkien related FURNITURE releases... True, Furniture would not be a problem in license terms I believe, however furniture can be a nightmare to tool. This can be a deterrant. |
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Post by Gildor on Nov 23, 2010 17:14:52 GMT
well I am neither caster nor sculptor so I don't know  I suppose Chris or Joe could tell us what is possible or not... stone or wood furniture could not be that hard yes? I agree that plates, candles, mugs, are so tiny that it's difficult, but what about statues, doors, fireplaces... pillars, ruins.... Mmmhh sorry, off topic, I'll begin a new thread it's better |
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Nov 25, 2010 16:51:14 GMT
well I am neither caster nor sculptor so I don't know I suppose Chris or Joe could tell us what is possible or not... stone or wood furniture could not be that hard yes? I agree that plates, candles, mugs, are so tiny that it's difficult, but what about statues, doors, fireplaces... pillars, ruins.... Mmmhh sorry, off topic, I'll begin a new thread it's better Start a thread on what would be ideal, include sketches too. Then we can review the suggestions. I mentioned it to Lars and he said we would not even have to talk with T.E. unless we include flags or symbols that make them obviously LOTR (Gondor flag or instance). |
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Post by Theobald on Nov 25, 2010 17:48:16 GMT
Flags, banners, etc can be more easily sculpted without any design on it. So it would be up to the buyer to paint them as he/she wishes. Just have a flat surface of a banner, then it's up to you. You might even paint ideas of RR Tolkien's heraldry on them.
I'm interested in a new thread about these matters.
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I suppose Chris or Joe could tell us what is possible or not... stone or wood furniture could not be that hard yes?