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Post by Michael O'Brien on Dec 1, 2011 16:11:44 GMT
Welcome to another exciting chance to add your ideas and dreams to Mithril's LOTR miniatures. Post your suggestions here. TWO per member.
As its nearly Christmas and Mithril will have some holidays approaching that would disrupt normal Fellowship voting, we combine December and January together as far as accepting ideas is concerned.
Normally I like to have a simple way of defining which is December's idea from January's idea by asking YOU to make clear statements about your idea.
A good vs evil theme is helpful too.
So make Decembers ideas based on 'good' guys (Sam for example) and January's ideas based on 'bad' guys (Saruman for example). If you have neutral characters (hard to define morally) then state which month's list it is supposed to be catalogued with. Any ideas not clearly marked out for a particular month will be randomly placed by myself or Chris.
Here is a perfect example: DECEMBER: Sam Gamgee JANUARY: Saruman the Wizard.
All suggestions MUST be single figures only. No mounts or furniture.
The only other restriction is that the figures MUST conform to our license, so NO Silmarillion based characters are allowed. They have to be in the Hobbit or LOTR books. The final say is ours and no arguement will be allowed. Ask if you are worried about its eligiability.
Make the title stand out (within reason) and separate from any supportive text by a paragragh. This will prevent Chris accidently overlooking it when he compiles the voting list later on. Otherwise it could be mistaken as a comment not a new suggestion.
Please add some quotes about where it is mentioned or give descriptions to promote your suggestion. Even add a picture or submit it to me to add to the gallery page. If you drum up support NOW, the you have a much better chance when it is time to vote.
Voting will begin on the 4th of January (first round). We stop taking suggestions at 16.00 GMT on the 3rd.
You may add comments about other members suggestions as well. If you post any suggestions elsewhere it may not be seen or credited. Please post any suggestions in English. (That is all I can respond in, sorry). If you have any questions then post in the other thread provided for such questions.
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Post by Theobald on Dec 1, 2011 19:45:03 GMT
As for me, I'm not in need of any more Sams or Sarumans (your "perfect" example), as the whole Mithril range covers a lot of that "personalities" in high numbers by now. I will make up my mind about suggestions, again. Though ... I don't really understand what it means that "neutral characters are hard to define morally".
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Post by Gildor on Dec 1, 2011 23:37:53 GMT
if I remember well, last year january suggestion was no less than Sauron (which is not yet reeady hehe) I think I'll stick to something more modest for this year... but I have to think ... I have no real idea at the moment.
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Post by Halbarad II. on Dec 2, 2011 15:44:09 GMT
DECEMBER: The Crypt of King Elessar Halbarad with the unfurled Standard of the KingWe have the very beautiful fellowship figure of Halbarad on horseback which is sold out as the first of the Fellowship releases so I do suggest the miniature of Halbarad on foot, in the middle of the battle on the Pelennor fields as the standard bearer of Aragorn, the later King Elessar with the standard of Gondor unfurledI think it is one of the most important standards of all in the story and it whould be nice to have it flagging between the other standart bearers Halbarad was a Ranger of the North. He was the second in command of the Dúnedain behind Aragorn and also the leader of the Grey Company.
In response to a message sent to Rivendell by Galadriel, Halbarad led the Grey Company comprising 30 Dúnedain south to the aid of their kinsman Aragorn. With them rode Elladan and Elrohir, the sons of Elrond. They caught up with Aragorn at the Fords of the Isen in Rohan. Halbarad brought Aragorn a message from Arwen as well as a standard made by her, which Aragorn asked Halbarad to keep with him for a little while.
Aragorn decided to take the Paths of the Dead under the White Mountains and Halbarad and the Grey Company went with him along with Gimli and Legolas. At the stone of Erech Aragorn summoned the Dead to fulfil their oaths, and Halbarad unfurled the standard, which appeared black with no device on it in the darkness. The Grey Company and the Dead Men of Dunharrow passed through the lands of the South to Pelargir, where they captured the fleet of the Corsairs of Umbar. Aragorn dismissed the Dead and the Grey Company sailed up the Anduin.
When they arrived at the Battle of Pelennor Fields, in the midst of the battle Aragorn's standard was once again unfurled, but now it was seen to bear the emblem of the White Tree of Gondor and the seven stars and the crown of Elendil. Halbarad carried the standard onto the battlefield, where he was slain in the on goings of the battle. The standard was later put behind the middle one of the three thrones on the field of Cormallen, between the green Banner of Rohan and the blue banner of Dol Amroth, when the Hobbit Heros Frodo and Samwise where brought before the new KingThis one is for the "good" side ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JANUARY: There is the Witch-King - so where are the Witches? hihi! So I'd like to suggest for the Evil Side: Witch of Angmar casting evil spellsI imagine a eccentric looking female in the service of the army of the Witch-King maybe of Black Numenorian origin or of a tribe of the Hillmen or even a Half-orc There are just a few evil female figures, so maybe time for a new one. She should be pictured in a dymamic "doing magic" pose either with her arms or some wand or staff to control and strenghten the fighting powers of the Angmar Warriors, Orcs and Trolls But not the fairytale or Halloween type of Witch please --------------------------------------------- Seasons greetings, dear fellows!
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Post by Gildor on Dec 4, 2011 10:15:10 GMT
Well Harald, actually, we asked Chris if he would accept including Aragorn sarcophagus in the "Eldarion & Arwen" vignette, so maybe your good choice of crypt of king Elessar would be pointless if this is released. but we don't have answer yet... just letting you know
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Post by Halbarad II. on Dec 5, 2011 9:36:05 GMT
Allright, if you think that way better and let Chris decide if there will be a crypt or not... I have changed my suggestion.
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Post by Milo on Dec 8, 2011 14:43:56 GMT
I suggest same as in 2010. first something that is related to "the Hobbit": Bilbo with Arkenstone
I imagine Bilbo with mithril coat presenting the Arkenstone to Thranduil and Bard. He also wears Sting on his belt. The one ring is in Bilbo's pocket but visible in relief If I remember well, this event is the only one where Bilbo can be represented wearing the mithril coat (during battle of five armies, he was quickly knocked out by a stone and still wearing the one ring, so invisible). I wonder if the Arkenstone could be not metalic, but transparent in resin for instance...or even mineral ! _____________________________________________________ Second suggestion is a something that might be usefull for RPG, Wargames, Dioramas and does not exist yet: Wounded Orc using "vitality drink"[/font][/color][/b] I would like to have an orc whose leg (or arm) is badly wounded (like you can see a bit of bones...). Using his weapon, he is smearing the liquid on his wound holding a clumsy flask between his teeth ;D.
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Post by Gildor on Dec 8, 2011 17:23:38 GMT
as for good suggestion i would think about ....
(g)Erestor at the Council of Elrond
Erestor was one of Elrond's concellors, along with Glorfindel, at Rivendell. They both sat with him during the Council of Elrond. Since having a council of Elrond vignette would definitly be too big, we can imagine build our own council but it would require key characters we still miss in the full range... and Erestor is a wise elf missing. I imagine him like a noble elf, in robes, a bit like Elrond but more elvish (after all, Elrond is only half-elven)
as for the bad guy, I think it's been quite some time we have seen any barrow wight in the mithril range, and Chris style and sculpting quality has improved a lot.. It would be interesting to have a new Barrow-Wight king, but in order to be original.. i would imagine this barrow-wight being defeated by the light and "turned away" by Tom Bombadil when he's freeing the hobbits. That could be the basis of a real good diorama! So my suggestion :
(b)"Fleeing Barrow-Wight"
I imagine a shadowy creature in regal robe and sinuous body, but with sleeves above its face, hiding from the light of sun and with a movement of retreat
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Post by Theobald on Dec 9, 2011 17:55:28 GMT
Sharkey and Grima (travelling north to the Shire)
I am aware of the restriction to suggest a “good guy” and a “bad guy” for December and January. But what is good, or what is bad ? Certainly Saruman, as being an Istari, couldn’t have been a “bad guy” at all. He once was a “good one”, before he later was deluded by the ‘Dark Lord’. So a character who once was good turned to be bad. As for Grima, he always was loyal to his Master though in the end he stabbed him. So, supporting an evil Master must be bad. But then in the end he was the one who freed Middle Earth from Saruman. Was that good or evil? See, those two for me are very hard to define between good and bad. That’s where my thoughts come from for suggesting these two for’ good’ and ‘bad’. As I still regard the Christmas Figure 2008 (Sharkey flees north) as one of the best Christmas figures ever, I would like to have another version without that massive Christmas-base. Here now, Grima should be added to the Saruman figure on a common base. – Right, what I suggest is to have a small ‘vignette’ consisting of two figures (Dec. and Jan.) as a single release.
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Post by ddaines on Dec 19, 2011 13:12:14 GMT
Dwarven miner with the Arkenstone.Good character suggestion: A slight use of artistic license would be required for this depiction as the image I have in mind would be of a dwarvish miner holding the great jewel aloft in one hand, found at the heart of the mountain. It is stated that the Arkenstone was fashioned by the dwarves so a perfectly fashioned stone at its discovery would not be possible, however the miner could be holding a jewel almost round in shape up to the light while on the floor lumps of stone from which it may have been found could be laying about. I have a couple of thoughts on the dwarf – he should be holding the gem aloft in one hand to emphasise that it is the Arkenstone, but in the other he could be holding up a small lantern to see his discovery better, or holding a small pick or other digging tool. (Sorry Milo - I have just seen your suggestion of Bilbo with the Arkenstone [having logged on for the first time in a while] and I hope my dwarf will not detract from it) Smaug as a hatchling Bad character suggestion: Keeping a Hobbit theme I would suggest a small baby dragon, i.e. Smaug hatching from the egg. I picture a small sculpt and possibly a one/two piece casting of a newly hatched Smaug with broken egg shell. Base could be populated with skulls etc. but at this stage he won’t have eaten anything so a nice fat juicy dwarf may look tempting to a newly hatched dragon, but may not be in the best possible taste ;D. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all .
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Post by Thingol on Dec 23, 2011 8:35:33 GMT
Ok.....without long sentences BAD character - SNOW TROLL with a harpoon, fishing net and fur jacket and hood.... an excellent addition to the MS469 Lossoth Hunter..... GOOD character - Last stand of ARATHORN, father of Aragorn.... Again...
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Post by valohir on Dec 23, 2011 16:18:22 GMT
Okay, I'll try again, I even have a matching figure idea
Bad Character suggestion: Boromir possessed by ring lust at Amon Hen[/b] filled with rage and lunging down to claim the one ring from...
Good Character suggestion: Frodo protecting the ring with one hand over his breast, and the other hand held out to block the much larger man's lunge, his feet already braced to fight, or flee
Of course Boromir is not natively bad, certainly not evil, however; I think this could be an excellent way of conveying the insidious evil that the ring represents. Turning even the noble against that which they have sworn to defend. To me you can't get much more evil than that.
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Post by erchamion on Dec 26, 2011 15:10:38 GMT
Bad Character: King of the Mountains, known as Morthec Gruan in MERP modules. He was the lord of Daen Coentis, ancestors of the Dunlendings and (indirectly) the Drúedain (Woses) of the White Mountains. He pledged allegiance to Isildur at the Stone of Erech. However, these Men later refused to aid Isildur in his war against Sauron, they came to the aid of neither side, but instead hid in the mountains. They had previously worshiped the Dark Lord during the Dark Years. As punishment, Isildur cursed them; saying that they would not have peace or rest till they fulfilled their oath upon his command or that of his heirs. Basically represent MS439 character, in human form, before becoming the King of the Dead. Good Character:Isildur´s messenger, Celefarn in MERP modules at the time in which claims the King of the Mountains help to fight against Sauron in the Last Alliance and he denies it. Chris could sculpt two figures so that they were a little scene. He could also accompanied the group with the Stone of Ered, place of the oath of the Deads. Merry Chrismas! ;D
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Post by twrich on Jan 3, 2012 5:33:53 GMT
GOOD CHARACTER: GIRION OF DALE.As a Lord of Dale, Girion would be tall, with his famous necklace visible over his lengthy robes. I picture him with longer hair, perhaps bound by a circlet with a precious stone set in it. I imagine also that he would have a slender belt to gather in his robes, with a dagger at his side. BAD CHARACTER: EASTERLING EMISSARY (SPY) FROM RHUN.In the time of Girion, before Smaug decended upon the Lonely Mountain and drove out the Dwarves, there was a great commerce in the northeastern lands of Middle Earth. Erebor, Dale, towns of Rhovanion, Dorwinion, Gondor, and the Anduin Vales, and those of Rhun all traded directly with each other. We have some Easterling warrior/magic user type figures, but none who is basically a diplomat (spy). I picture the Emissary of Rhun in ceremonial gear. As a generally nomadic people he would be in riding gear with a sword, but over fine clothes with no head gear, as his purpose would be to arrange trade deals with (and spy on) Dorwinion, Dale and Erebor--and secretly, with the Orcs of the Grey Mountains and Misty Mountans. He would be high in the confidence of the just released Easterling Chieftan!
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Jan 6, 2012 10:45:26 GMT
Though ... I don't really understand what it means that "neutral characters are hard to define morally". a characters that are not easily placed into either good or evil camp.
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