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Post by bombadil1963 on Sept 21, 2007 17:01:53 GMT
Wow,
today I saw the news and pics of the Corsairs of Umbar! I love that guy with the enter-hook! Perhaps now I`ll buy the corsair`s admiral. Before today I hesitated because an admiral has to have a fleet and sailors to command! Now he´s got it.
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Post by jdbrown55 on Sept 22, 2007 1:39:39 GMT
That is awesome!!!! Great set of miniatures!! I agree with you bombadil1963, I will get the admiral now too. I can't wait to get my hands on those miniatures.
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Post by Stift on Sept 25, 2007 18:05:09 GMT
A assume that the others will be as superb as the already shown ones. I love them!!! Especially 'cause "Bad Guys" are much more rare than the good ones. What do you think: Will Mithril offer (alike the Lossarnach) a corsair warband?
Yours, Stift
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Post by bombadil1963 on Sept 25, 2007 19:10:11 GMT
That would be perfect, Stift, but I have reasonable doubts . . .
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Post by ddaines on Oct 10, 2007 12:34:15 GMT
Thank you for the preview of those Corsairs today:P – I have to say that these figures look to be very nicely sculpted and designed. Roll on November!!! ;D
David
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Post by barliman on Oct 10, 2007 14:43:17 GMT
Yes, good aren't they? The whole set of ten is everything I'd hoped for.
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Post by Axel on Oct 11, 2007 18:03:16 GMT
I am glad that I am on autoship again with these guys :-)
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Post by Michael O'Brien on Dec 5, 2007 11:33:18 GMT
These will be released in January 2008. We are sorry about the delay.
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Post by aelfwine on Dec 6, 2007 17:28:32 GMT
Whoo hooo Someone interesting for the heroes to beat up But seriously, they are wonderful. They would make a great diorama, with the Corsair admiral figure... But it would require building a model Dromond to put them on. A project for later next year, perhaps. Gavin
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Post by Axel on Dec 12, 2007 9:38:23 GMT
As already stated over on mmp, the Revell Viking Ship makes a cheap base for a ship - if a viking longship rather then a Dromons. But you can add board, banks and for/aftercstles and will get a ship that is roughly sea and riverworthy. I assume that the "Dromonds" Tolkien mentioned are not necessarily clones of the medieval small galleys.
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Post by wvberghe on Jan 17, 2008 20:04:25 GMT
Axel, is this Revell model a so called waterline model, and big enough (say roughly 1/60th)? If it is, I will have to start searching for it in a nearby model shop (it's been many years since I entered a model shop!)
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Post by Axel on Jan 18, 2008 18:54:56 GMT
Its not waterline, but its big enough. Size is given with 1:50. There are 64 shields in it that would fit well with Mithrils, though they are slightly larger then those that come with the Rohirrim. The boat looks small to take 64 men, but from experience I think they would fit.
If still in doubt I can upload some photos of my model with Mithrils aboard. (Corsairs, if you wait until my autoship arrives)
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Post by aelfwine on Jan 25, 2008 17:00:13 GMT
Well, as I said elsewhere, the wonderful Ted Naismith paintings for the Silmarillion use the great viking Longships as the basis for Numenorean ships, the Swan ships of Eressa and so on. So it would "fit" with the themes of Middle Earth to have people using clinker built longship designs.
Gavin
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Post by ddaines on Feb 11, 2008 21:19:09 GMT
I've just posted on the general comments thread about the newly arrived Corsairs so won't repeat here, but they are excellent figures in the flesh.
Talking of ships I have recently taken delivery of the Heller La Real de France galley. This should make an excellent Corsair ship with a little bit of conversion work, but it is big - 35" and will need a lot of slave rowers from somewhere, but fingers crossed I shall eventually complete it.
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Post by landpruneir Inc. on Feb 13, 2008 14:14:16 GMT
These will be released in January 2008. We are sorry about the delay. Just let you know that this series of corsairs is one of the most magnificent Mithril's realization. Congretulation Thank you Mithril & Thank you Chris
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tolwen
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Post by tolwen on Jun 9, 2008 17:53:03 GMT
Hi guys, maybe a bit late but not too late I hope For anyone skilled in german, there is a great german internet store where you can buy almost any model kit currently available on the market. The name is moduni. They also have a scale given for any kit, so you can roughly judge whether it's suitable for minis or not. If you are willing to spend some more money (mostly 100 EUR upwards) you can even choose from a wide variety of historic sailing ship kits (mostly wooden laser-cut). Concerning possible Númenórean shipping technology (and ship types), you might also have a look at the corresponding essay on this topic in Other Minds Magazine, Issue #2. The URL can be found in my signature. Cheers Thomas P.S.: I just noticed that moduni also has its website fully in english and french as well. You just have to click on the appropriate banner on the main page. Strangely, they do not list the "Reale de France" from Heller, though other shops do...
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Post by ddaines on Jun 9, 2008 21:53:09 GMT
Interestingly enough Tolwen I am using the Heller Reale de France as a Corsair ship (it will be a long voyage to get it finished I suspect) as it seems to be an ideal platform on which to build - it has a sleek look to it which as a raider was what I was looking for.
I will be modifying it to a degree, but the GF Corsair Admiral looks as if he belongs in the 'bridge area', surveying all he sees before him.
I am also using a Zvelda (correct spelling?) Crusader Cog for a Gondorian ship - this is 1/72nd scale, but fits Mithril figures perfectly.
I'll be interested to read your article on Numenorean shipping types.
David.
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tolwen
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Post by tolwen on Jun 10, 2008 17:46:26 GMT
Interestingly enough Tolwen I am using the Heller Reale de France as a Corsair ship (it will be a long voyage to get it finished I suspect) as it seems to be an ideal platform on which to build - it has a sleek look to it which as a raider was what I was looking for. Such galleys are IMO perfect for portraying a scene from a major military campaign; e.g. the Corsair invasion from the mid-28th century or the War of the Ring. They are less suited to the "everyday" raiding activity in the Bay of Belfalas though (IMHO). This has to do with the design of the ship. Gallyes (both ancient and medieval/Rennaissance) had two major drawbacks: - First their limited endurance. The great number of personnel aboard (oarsmen, sailors and marines) aboard coupled with a very limited cargo capacity for food and water means that the ships have to re-supply every two or three days at the latest. Thus galley operations are only possible with a string of friendly ports or supply dumps along the coast. That's hard to imagine for an Umbarean raider off Belfalas or Lebennin
- Second, their limited seaworthiness. All galleys are much more susceptible to adverse weather than sailing ships. It's no wonder that the only area where galleys were common in the western world was the relative sheltered and compartimented Mediterranean. On the Atlantic coasts, gallyes never were a success.
Thus, for a raider in the Bay of Belfalas, preying upon the Gondorian shipping, the Shebek is a much more suited vessel. It's sleek as well (being developed from gallyes), but it's primary propulsion is sail, while oars are only auxiliary. The much better ratio of crew to cargo capacity makes it much more capable of staying at sea for longer times. In addition, galleys have problems in fights against greater sailing ships (e.g. big cogs, carracks or even galleons): Their low freeboard means that their primary weapon (the boarding action) is hard to implement against a vessel with a higher hull and freeboard. Ancient galleys had their ram, but Renaissance galleys did not ram, but board their adversaries (or at least they tried). Absolutely. I've ordered this as well. I'm curious to see how it is I'd be interested in feedback once you've found the time Cheers Thomas P.S.: Another major factor (IMO the decisive one beside the seaworthiness issue) in the decline of galleys in the real world was the rapid development of naval artillery. The number of ordnance possible on a high-board sailing ship could easily beat off several galleys at once. This is less of an issue for Middle-earth of course
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