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Post by Gildor on May 29, 2016 10:32:54 GMT
well it seems we have yet another easterling in the range... huzzah... How much more until easterlings this or easterlings that cease to be submitted in the GF ? Maybe a warband would be good...
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Post by Gildor on May 26, 2016 18:29:23 GMT
rahh, I see the tie between Gildor and the Easterling has broken... d**n Easterlings... I'd really like to have a figurine of Gildor.. I admit I was never really pleased with the LR25 version... Come on people, vote for Gildor !
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Post by Gildor on May 1, 2016 10:10:54 GMT
that still makes a lot of "leaders", "champions", "chieftain" ... usually an army has less leaders and warlords and more infantry & horsemen Indeed submitting infantry or cavalry ideas one by one would take years to achieve a regular army set... Come on Mithril, you have had an Easterling Cavalry taking dust on your shelves, unreleased for more than 4 years. It would be more than time to release them...... and cease this frustration that forces Easterling fans to submit Easterling on a per character basis... Gold Fellowship was not meant to be a substitution for whole army sets...
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Post by Gildor on Apr 29, 2016 15:49:12 GMT
fact is with digital sculpting you don't have to worry about mistakes nor reaching small curves or angles, nor the fact the greenstuff is slowly - but surely - drying and become less and less workable. you can also zoom in and zoom out for very small details such as faces... I can't wait to see the results/improvments done on faces thanks to 3D design ! It also means we can now have poses we could never dream about before because it was impossible to reach "unreachable parts"... which is both great, but will become quite a challenge for painters Also, you can decide to "explode" your model in whatever combination of smaller parts for master printing in anticipation for mould creation.
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Post by Gildor on Apr 28, 2016 18:36:50 GMT
wow, these are astonishingly great news ! I can't wait to see the results! Hopefully this will even bring back some motivation in my fingers to start painting again ! I hope !
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Post by Gildor on Apr 28, 2016 11:23:41 GMT
Khand is south-east, halfway between Near Harad and Rhun. Historically they united with the wainriders so we could assume they are Easterlings right Nicely pointed Master Wolf. In my database though I put "Variags" under their own ethnical group because I was unsure they are really "eastfolk"... but closely related right (not here to advertise but if you look at my database, all ethnical groups for elves and men are referenced, so you can search precisely how many of each culture exist in the whole mithril range)
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Post by Gildor on Apr 27, 2016 15:55:16 GMT
I understand your point master archer, but please consider those numbers : actually, concerning Easterlings, apart from 54mm LO27, there are 7 "Easterling" single references. Indeed they are specific, and not useful for an army... M17 & M18 Sagath men (but Sagath is Easterling) M241 Brodda and M242 Hithlum Easterling (from Turin series) M322 Shamaness MS580 Emissary Christmas 2011 Chieftain and well... ahem... there is Khamul the Easterling (ok just joking ) It is true that in the Hobbit... no mention of Easterling, and in LOTR, they are indeed mentionned but only present as seen from afar in the last battle. Haradrim are far much more depicted than Easterlings (Mumak are from Harad). I suppose it's the reason why there are so few in the Mithril range. Actually, Easterlings are a race of men that is mostly present in the Silmarillion and the Unfinished Tales... and we all know those books are not covered by the licence.... If you look carefully, apart from Galadriel, Glorfindel, Gildor and Celebrimbor there is almost no Noldor either in the whole mithril range...because Noldor have their "time" in the Silm. There is quite exclusively Sindar or wood elves in mithril... and not a single Teleri! (except maybe Cirdan or Galdor but it's up to debate) Saying there are more elves than easterlings in the mithril range is a bit meaningless, as easterlings are men... and there are far more men than elves in the mithril range and I definitly would like to see more "high elves" and Noldor in the range, instead of always sindar or wood elves.... the same way you'd like easterlings Still I agree with you it would be a GREAT addition, and Mithril has always taken liberties at releasing "MERP created" Haradrim or peoples from Far Harad more than what we see in the books, so they could do the same with Easterlings... ...but i'm just trying to be factual with numbers and races
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Post by Gildor on Apr 27, 2016 15:08:55 GMT
well, considering the master is not unique and can be reprinted... considering it may be more robust than greenstuff ones after being used to produce a mould we MAY ... (but it requires confirmation by mithril), well we MAY imagine they have a better batch management and thus the price MAY be better (maybe not immediatly because there will necessarily be a payback period but afterwards, who knows ? Indeed, now it all comes from how much time/money/effort is made in the mould creation process and its reusability/reconditionning. The time of "rarities" is over, with 3D concept/printing, we could not have any more M16 or Halbarad since the originals are "digital" and can be remade.... unless the file is accidentally lost but I do not think they intend to delete files intentionnaly that would be odd, risky, and illogical.
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Post by Gildor on Apr 26, 2016 22:17:17 GMT
same here
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Post by Gildor on Apr 23, 2016 21:11:36 GMT
This new 3D modelling looks great. Could you tell us if the 3D printing will use photopolymerisation or extrusion deposition. I really hope it is photopolymerisation for details... Extrusion would not be fitting enough for this scale and detail... Also Milo is correct, if you add "Z" in the reference, maybe it would be better to decline all the series from now on, else we won't make the difference between a fellowship or a common release (if mithril ever plans to release regulars again in the future ... let's say "sets", instead of regulars) One last thing, I noticed that in all the 3D renderings provided on the blogs we don't see : - Elfhelm the Marshal (April 2015 suggestion) - Tobold Hornblower (May 2015 suggestion) which were sugested before those seen in your blog but not released yet. Have those been sculpted "old fashion" yet, or will they be Zbrushed? Does that mean they will both be released after the advertised MZ ones? And at the very last, from the references used in the blog, it appears we still have a hole in the referencing: MS621. Is there something planned to fill this gap? (I am very happy that you managed to fill all the others holes so far... except the 10 slot hole planned for a full set (541-550)... maybe one day...)
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Post by Gildor on Jan 3, 2016 9:48:17 GMT
the names you mention I meant Of course I know "my own background". I also seem to be the unofficial guardian of the Palantir of Elostirion at the twin towers which is my "home" when I am not wandering in the wild. but the names Inglaurë, Elphin and Falvereth, are inventions for MERP modules. but you are perfectly right in your last post
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Post by Gildor on Dec 31, 2015 12:44:11 GMT
January: Gildor Inglorion at Lindon
Dress in Noble robe. Inglorion appears only in travel gears in Mithril range. Son of InglaurÎ, the daughter of Finrod and Amarie, and her Telerin husband Elphin; born in Aman. He came with Glorfindel to Endor in the Dark Year. His wife is Falvereth, a Falathren noble. Ah I think I like that I'd gladly vote for a new interpretation of my character (PS : though the background you provide for him is an ICE extrapolation and strictly non-canonical of course
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Post by Gildor on Sept 27, 2015 9:04:21 GMT
mmhh for me, Variags (of Khand) are more linked to Southrons (and thus Haradrim) than Easterlings , and I do not count Christmas figurines in the regular range, if i did indeed, that would make more of them but after looking at my own database - shame on me - you are right, there are very few easterlings. Actually it is my own error... it is Haradrim for which we have a lot, not Easterlings! I thus apologize for my quiproquo (well after all, we were promised an easterling cavalry, years ago... but that... is another story
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Post by Gildor on Sept 26, 2015 14:48:06 GMT
it seems we are about to see another month with a "commoner"... even if the idea is good (companion piece to Forlong), I don't see how this could be translated into a specific figurine different from all the Easterlings we already have in mithril (even if those easterlings are supposed to be "of a different sort", I hope master Ent that if it wins you will insist on this very point when discussing the concept art with Chris... it would be a pity to have yet another easterling similar to all others... due to "mithril style continuity"
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Post by Gildor on Aug 16, 2015 19:52:46 GMT
I think I will try myself at suggesting something this month :
King Eomer on foot
As far as I can remember there is only ONE 32mm representation of Eomer in the whole Mithril range (M262) and then a vignette with Eomer & Aragorn (MS270)
At the end of the LotR, Eomer is the new king of Rohan since Theoden is now dead, and he assists the crowning of King Elessar
It would be quite new and exclusive to have an Eomer on foot, not in a battle pose, and not fully geared for battle.
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Post by Gildor on Aug 10, 2015 8:09:32 GMT
you mean ms606 Forlong right? not Frumgar
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Post by Gildor on Aug 4, 2015 10:32:28 GMT
after the poll is locked?? well I did not even switch my own vote as I saw it was not necessary actually so I plead not guilty, I had voted for Ohtar and my vote is still, after the lock, for Ohtar.
maybe some people switched their vote (that is always possible until the end) just before the poll locks?
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Post by Gildor on Jul 19, 2015 14:17:07 GMT
remove or accept ideas from a list is not the same thing as asking someone what he thinks on a given idea. Indeed if he aknowledged it it means he considers it fit for the mithril range
it's then up to us GF members either to promote a suggestion or express our reserves, which I did.
I won't carry on debating (and using caps as it seems to mean shouting everytime, I'll use bold or underline).
Well if it wins, it won't be the first time the GF range has "curiosities", certainly won't be the last either...
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Post by Gildor on Jul 18, 2015 17:28:27 GMT
my canon is going on what I have read in the text yes, for instance, Tolkien Letters where he specifically explains his vision on women... this debate is not a young one it has been around for decades and decades. The place of women in Tolkien universe was largely controversed and criticized... As I said, I do not adhere to his ideas, but I respect them. If I want (sexy or not) female warriors or hunters I buy figurines from other brands, from other fantasy worlds, that's all Then using caps is not to shout it's to emphasize. I'm not reacting at peoples I'm reacting at ideas, and I said it at first it has strictly nothing personal. People, and ideas are two different things Mithril is in no way my enterprise, I would never manage it the way it has been managed for the past 10 years But, sorry if I look overly fierce saying that, my personal interest and involvment in mithril wellfare and promotion has not been matched by many... I know I have detractors and you can't please everybody, but maybe I speak mostly out of passion, and that seems as if I was howling at people... that's not the case
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Post by Gildor on Jul 18, 2015 17:06:33 GMT
Well Quendil, do as you see fit, I have not suggested anything of late because I don't think it's worth defending....
I can quote you some people who decided to leave the Gold Fellowship though they were here for a very long time, (long before the GF exists ) because suggestions have gone totally awry and they did not want to take part in such a "massacre" of the tolkien world... That's not "yet" my point of view and I think everybody is entitled to his opinion .... and someone's opinion CAN be to be against someone else's opinion, that's perfectly democratic...
I won't go against a winning suggestion, but I found it to be my duty to warn people that if they vote for it, it is clearly not canon and against Tolkien's vision.... If all who voted for "arwen hunting" do it knowlingly, that's fine....
In the end, the votes rule the day...
Maybe it's time for Mithril to become more generalist and not be the last brand to focus on Tolkien/MERP authenticity...
PS : as members of the Gold Fellowship we are entitled to defend debate, promote or demote ideas in order for the votes to be something active and "strong", not a passive thing. I claim the right to be able to defend my ideas, as part of this fellowship, wether it is to defend, or disapprove suggestions.
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Post by Gildor on Jul 18, 2015 17:01:26 GMT
I really think you don't need to tell me what Mithril was designed at the very beginning... And I also played MERP and enjoy playing MECCG too and I am fine with everything that has been extended by MERP...
Arwen being a hunter or warrior is not one of them... she is no hunter, even in MERP... (actually she is a lvl 15 bard, as per "MERP - House of Elrond" module) and her only known weapon would be a holy rapier with a spell of sleep)
if Mithril is true to Tolkien AND/OR MERP.... they can't do it.
Well if need be I'll simply ask Chris about what he thinks about that.
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Post by Gildor on Jul 18, 2015 8:01:03 GMT
it's not machoism luthien, it's fact from the books and Tolkien letters. we may or may not like it and I personnaly don't like how Tolkien depicts most female characters in his books as feeble characters. It's proper to Elves, Human race have women warriors, but Elven race has not, at least when it comes to high birth... (read letter 43 of Tolkien Letters about how Tolkien depicts how women should behave in this "chivalry" environment)
Don't take me wrong, I don't like that concept, but it is a FACT from JRRT's OWN writing in his letters and books
Galadriel NEVER wielded a sword either.... Aredhel during the Silmarillion may be the only one to have wielded a bow... at most.
you may WANT or envisage things that are fine, but they are not canon and quite the opposite : they are wrong to what Tolkien wanted them to be...
That's actually one of the things I criticize about Tolkien and why I prefer other authors about this concept of women, but nevertheless I respect it and would not want it
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Post by Gildor on Jul 17, 2015 15:05:57 GMT
as much as I'd enjoy seeing an elven lady in martial pose, I simply can't vote not even caution an Arwen in a hunt. I know it has a lot of supporters but may I remind here that Mithril is supposed to be at least true to the books, if not in design at least in character roles? Arwen is an adventurer, hunting or whatever ONLY in Peter Jackson movies. She is supposed to be a lovely "housewife" without any adventuring or martial skills. She may have magic, or seducing advantages to lure ennemies, the same way her ancestor Luthien did for Melkor, but like Luthier, she would not even know how to handle a sword.... Well I'd like to say that's my point of view.... but it's not, it's how JRR Tolkien meant Arwen to be.... I don't like to proceed this way, but I may thus switch my vote in the end if it can make a Hunting Arwen loose Unless it is renamed another way and it's not "Arwen"... (NB : this is nothing personal)
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Post by Gildor on Jul 1, 2015 19:09:20 GMT
addendum : ok I finally understood how it works : it is a promotional code that gives a static 11.26€ AFTER VAT has been applied, not before. so we must not apply 23% on 39.95€ but on 51.21€ and then reduce the price... and it's fine. it's clear now but at first I thought it was the other way around...Still an interesting deal , no problem with that
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Post by Gildor on Jul 1, 2015 17:38:47 GMT
Just one question, when I apply the code I get a total of 51.74€ (3x21€-11.26€), I suppose it is with TVA... You say it should be 39,95 without TVA.
What is the VAT rate at the moment because with those numbers that would means VAT is at 29.5% shouldn't it be 23% ? or did I make something wrong?
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Post by Gildor on Jun 1, 2015 18:19:23 GMT
before this topic is closed and the new one is created... I'd like to encourage all of you people to STOP suggesting (more than voting) for the forthcoming months... with the new GoldFellowhip rules we all received it was said that suggestions could be made during more than a month if not enough suggestions were made , even if it means having months without suggestions... Considering the lack of release, production, news about all that's forthcoming and the delay that has been gathered I really think the best solution is to put the suggestion process in standby for a period of time... The difference of income for mithril is absolutly "null" in this case considering there are months ahead of releases to be made already... It would also be fair for people to stop making suggestions for products that MAY be released in 8 months... 1 year... 2 year... considering nobody can be sure the mithril brand will still exist until then... thus having our "dreams" of suggestion made for .. naught So, if you see what I mean and/or share my thoughts... DON'T SUGGEST...Or maybe you should suggest some Napoleonic or British infantry fit for Waterloo. I'm sure your suggestion would be sculpted/cast/produced & released in less than a month altogether
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Post by Gildor on May 21, 2015 12:59:38 GMT
Though I understand Chris because he is always reluctant to work on a Sauron character I'd like to say something about Sauron as necromancer.
If we are true to the books (not the movies nor other brands), during the battle of Dol Guldur, Gandalf mistook the necromancer of Dol Guldur for being a Nazgul, and he did not sense/understand it was actually Sauron before he fled.
This means that Sauron, at this stage, could have had the aspect of any ringwraith, both in physical aspect but also in size... as opposed to Sauron during the Last Alliance, or during the forging of the Ring.
Sauron has already been depicted as Anatar vs Celebrimbor in the past, and he was of elf size, not Maia size.
From Chris sculpting canons, I understood that all Maia (except istari) should be at least troll sized if not more (cf Sauron, Balrog, Razarac) but Sauron is a special case because he lacks the power to control his own "fana" (physical shape)... I suppose we may try to resubmit him in a later month, though we already have Sauron three times in three shapes, in the mithril range.
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Post by Gildor on May 2, 2015 9:05:58 GMT
well I hope there'll be some oats left for Roheryn (Aragorn's Horse at the end of LOTR) in some months (years?) still congrats for Elfhelm's run master inkeeper
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Post by Gildor on Apr 29, 2015 16:33:06 GMT
well this is quite a good thing to have such a list including variants now, though this only remain a list and lacks some series too (only focusing on M range)
thanks for this work
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Post by Gildor on Apr 27, 2015 19:41:08 GMT
there SHOULD be months for vignettes.... a pity there is none anymore... the swan boat is not "single" but a mounted is still not enough...
or else, ideas for two-annual boxed sets, or whatever, there is not enough variety of "types" in the range, that's a fact...
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