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Post by Theobald on Apr 27, 2013 11:57:28 GMT
I'm still speechless about this. I simply cannot believe it.
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Post by Theobald on Apr 19, 2013 17:15:40 GMT
Alright, so we do. As it was pointed out often before by Mr O'Brien, this second vote is open and meant to support one's own suggestion more efficiently. - Now that's exactly what I try to do with this entry.
First of all, remember, please, that the 12th King of Gondor was the first one to improve Gondor's fleet to cope with those corsair ships coming up northwards from Umbar. That's why he is remembered still as "The Ship-King". He was wed to Berúthiel and her cats. We have a very fine MS-miniature of her with only some of her cats (3). I imagine a Tarannon Falastur-miniature including some more cats at the base (mustn't necessarily be the other 7). I just want to point out that Falastur might be a good addition to the Ms-Berúthiel. The moment he decided to set out his wife on a ship with her cats and gave them away to the currents and winds.
I have to state here, that I do like women and also am befriended with some cats, as far as they do allow.
Just an idea to have another small vignette to be extended.
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Post by Theobald on Apr 16, 2013 20:02:30 GMT
So I think,as I said before, our dear Tom guessed it right.. - All this reveils such a lot about Mr Tubb's humour and his passion for designing surprises that go along with his very most interest in sculpting and designing figures which are not related to fighting poses or warriors. So, to me, "a Milo Burrows" is not only a canonical, or valid character, as I might dare to imagine Mr Tubb's kind of humour ... huoommm ... and that's what I like most ... I remember well, that once he sculpted a "3rd" table for me, additionally to the MX-Up. I was surprised that he designed that table so well, just fitting to me. One book open, another book closed, an ink-pot and and an old squill. - Though those were not golden at all. I have to stop ... I'm just smiling and enjoying ...
With this, I would like to ask to take back my poor suggestion of Berúthiel's husband as I do not want to compete with Milo Burrows, which I by now favour most. I'm sure you will understand.
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Post by Theobald on Apr 16, 2013 11:58:57 GMT
Indeed
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Post by Theobald on Apr 15, 2013 15:37:41 GMT
This could be a good explanation, Tom. Just remember that among the old Mithril Christmas figures there were Patrick Sarsfield and King Arthur. Both were not very much canonical according to MrTolkien's books and essays. - So why not have a "Milo" among the MS-releases. I wouldn't mind at all.
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Post by Theobald on Apr 12, 2013 16:28:06 GMT
I really do understand you indeed, Milo. So you even gave him your vote. That's absolutely great and it is the kind of humour I do like best.
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Post by Theobald on Apr 12, 2013 15:15:26 GMT
Sorry again, "Milo Burrows" it reads ...
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Post by Theobald on Apr 12, 2013 15:14:01 GMT
Er. sorry, I just became aware of that last suggestion in the list, reading "Milo Borrows". That is very strange to me. I just checked the suggestion-thread for this month again and couldn't find any entry that referred to a "Milo Borrows" - whatever he or she is. Maybe someone around here could enlighten me a bit about this very strange matter.
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Post by Theobald on Apr 12, 2013 11:32:11 GMT
Alright then ... again I'm first placing a vote vote
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Post by Theobald on Apr 9, 2013 14:12:42 GMT
Well, I just had a look at the conditions for suggestions and the procedure of voting again. I think starting the first round of the april- vote on August 10 would be a little late, wouldn't it?
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Post by Theobald on Apr 8, 2013 14:21:07 GMT
I hope that there will be more suggestions coming up for this month, just to have a wider choice for the few members who regularly take part in voting. So, just come on, please.
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Post by Theobald on Apr 7, 2013 16:39:31 GMT
I dare to suggest again
Tarannon Falastur
12th king of Gondor, the so-called “ship-king”. He was married to Berúthiel who he later set out on a ship together with her ten cats. Tarannon Falastur was an important king of Gondor because of his achievements for the Gondorian fleet. As we have his wife Berúthiel already (a very nice figure, by the way) I think it makes sense also to have her husband.
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Post by Theobald on Mar 21, 2013 16:06:14 GMT
I just placed the first vote. So, come on all you others !
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Post by Theobald on Mar 5, 2013 21:27:48 GMT
hm, we'll see ... I just have to contemplate a bit as for not being too hasty ...
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Post by Theobald on Feb 28, 2013 15:59:28 GMT
I would like to support your statement, Mornedhel
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Post by Theobald on Feb 19, 2013 16:56:17 GMT
I just voted - a bit hastily as I again wanted to be the first one once again - and of course will be interested in the final result again.
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Post by Theobald on Feb 9, 2013 12:26:07 GMT
You're welcome, halfdane
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Post by Theobald on Feb 8, 2013 17:40:36 GMT
It definitely is not an original Mithril figure. It is a conversion (modified figure) and ,I think, of very bad quality. Obviously one of the Mithril LT 13 "Harlf-orcs" was chosen as the substantial part of the figure. The arms are converted and given a different pose. An archer instead of the original swordman with shield. And, well, that base ... I will not comment.
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Post by Theobald on Jan 24, 2013 20:23:37 GMT
I do agree with what sevlag stated. But, wouldn't it be wise to update information about the MX-releases by now, Michael, once the first Hobbit-movie has been released a while ago? So far there are no pics of the MX-UP and no information available.
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Post by Theobald on Jan 12, 2013 17:15:56 GMT
Maybe this year it could be interesting to have a choice between North and South for the December and January suggestions. That might prove to be as difficult as this one. What I really want to say is, I feel fine with it. Why squabble at all? - All there is, is to vote for suggestions.
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Post by Theobald on Dec 2, 2012 10:49:14 GMT
No harm intended and no harm taken let's just enjoy our hobby And yes, it was my idea to have a small Hard-vignette around the trader. So we'll have it in two parts now. And ... there could also be a surprise
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Post by Theobald on Dec 1, 2012 11:14:57 GMT
Thank you all very much who have voted for my suggestion. I tried to explain why I put this "non-canonical"musician as a suggestion on this board. But ... mind, please, what would a Tolkien-like world be without tunes and music? What about the lute-player in the Prancing Pony? ... On the other hand I feel a bit responsible for the "canonical" Dwarves playing and tuning instruments in the MX-UP. So in the end I'm glad that also tunes from Harad found their way to our various imaginations of Tolkien's universe.
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Post by Theobald on Nov 24, 2012 18:29:23 GMT
"They simply don't suit my tastes" is a sentence I can well understand, Master Barliman. Very well, indeed. As for the Inuits in a desert ... I still dunno. Maybe they were stranded somehow. I cannot explain what did cause it. Maybe it's better not to find seals in a desert. thank you ... Barliman.
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Post by Theobald on Nov 24, 2012 17:10:54 GMT
Well, to be honest ... in case my suggestion wins I'll try to convince Mr Tubb to add a second musician (though that would not be according to a single-figure suggestion). Just see, for a sound for a dance you are in need of a rhythm, right? Good. Then we need a melody being played to it, right? - And does the drummer can do that? No. He is seriously in need of someone playing a tune. Er, second figure being needed, so to say. But what was it, when long ago we were so much surprised that the Ms486A had a Gondorian Ms486b at its side. We didn't know that time that the camel-rider would include another figure, no one was expecting. It was up to Mr Tubb to do that. So, what I want to tell is, that I would dare to ask The Man to add a second musician ... just for the music ....
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Post by Theobald on Nov 24, 2012 14:36:47 GMT
Right you are, Master Barliman, right indeed as for the assumptions of what Master JRR Tolkien had in mind about the cultures and countries in the south (i.e. Harad and Far-Harad). Mustn't necessarily being interpreted as a kind of Arab culture, of course. Though interpreting peoples of that area, as Chris Tubb did, with the earlist of his M-figures, leaves me stuck to that logical explanation to depict figures which might match that thought. - As for me, I think we're at the brink of Tolkien's universe, of which we do not have any proof or image how to imagine what he just hinted at when he wanted to express (as I think) the unimaginable world beyond our focus being on the maps of the LotR. So what about Rhûn and the lands of the far east? Isn't it the same with it? - Some imagine those "wainriders" as a people specialized on old Egypt chariot-warfare? long before the story of the LotR took place. I do remember well, that you complained about the MS502 "Pharao", as you called it. So why not also complain about suggestions as MS576 "Junast", who is a character from ICE and not very much Tolkien-like ( I couldn't find a word about Junast from Haradwaith, except the fact that in the old M-series there's the M079 (Junast's guard). What about the "Visi" and the "Razarac" and many more? Are they mentioned by Mr Tolkien? - No. ICE or MERP was their origin, wasn't it? Did anyone complain when those figures were released once because they were non-canonical according to Tolkien's ideas? At least I cannot rember that, as we all were very much pleased to have such wonderful figures, right? So what about those peoples from the East, far from beyond Rhûn? Tolkien does not give any description about those peoples. So why are the Sagath Chieftain (CHR2011) and the samurai-like Lord of Khand (CHR2010) such wonderful figures nobody complained about, though Tolkien didn't give them any name? Why do we have the associatin with Mongols in our minds, when Tolkien wrote about Easterlings? Those horsed peoples that were so fast and dangerous to the world they knew of. Of course they were Inuits without a boat, lost in a desert. Alas ... Coincidence in our minds, right? There's no name offered by Tolkien of one of the Easterling's leaders (except in the Silmarillon, which does not have to be discussed here). So it is better not to have any figure of them ... would be non-canonical indeed. Sorry. to have been trying to get your attention for that long. I just felt obliged to answer and try to point out my point of view about different matters. Just keep on
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Post by Theobald on Nov 24, 2012 13:05:44 GMT
ok ... ich bin zu faul mich abzumelden ... ich gehe einfach nur mal in Winterschlaf und hoffe, dass wir im nächsten Frühjahr mal einen Grund finden werden uns hier über Erfreuliches zu unterhalten - ich weiß, ich bin ein dummer Optimist.
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Post by Theobald on Nov 24, 2012 11:10:42 GMT
Hm ... I didn't learn that 13-volume-Oxford-Dictionary-books by heart, as you might guess. Though the word "canonical" does also have a second meaning, as far as I know. (Eccl). Which refers to 'Beatifikation'(lat) and the role of an 'Advocatus Dei'. - It's not me to judge upon those matters at all as I am not the person who would dare to do that. To say what is accurate and authorize anything around here. I simply cannot do that. All I did, was just referring to the idea of this MS-Fellowship-suggestion-concept which is about placing suggestions for figures that have to do with Tolkien's LotR and the Hobbit. So I felt free to suggest a Haradan musician, as I thought that there's some need of him/her because the latest small 'vignette' of that Haradrim bellydancer was lacking a person making music. By the way, why could the wealthy Haradan merchant and the bellydancer be regarded as "canonical" (must have been, because they have been released) ? Just for another thought, are all those figures of the wonderful M-Prancing-Pony-Series really 'canonical'? And ... who was it to judge that they are? Sorry, I felt obliged to comment on this again. But just to cut it short, yes, I feel fine here to suggest my idea and see and learn what others think of it. So that there seems to be "a distinct division of opinion" here makes me feel good, as it reveils that anyone can feel free to suggest from his own point of view. The majority-vote will tell. Besides ... I do remember well what trouble my suggestion of a female orc once caused. So I made the suggestion of a Haradan musician with the same smile on my face. Why not? It's just for fun, isn't it.
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Post by Theobald on Nov 23, 2012 16:47:45 GMT
I do not agree with this, as you can imagine. So far we've seen wonderful miniatures in the MS-range as e.g. the wine merchant, the attacking camel rider with the Gondorian footsoldier, the Hillmen King, the Lossoth hunter and so very many others. To be honest, I rather prefer to see a new figure from Tolkien's universe being sculpted than to have, let's say a vignette called "15th Gandalf meets 9th Aragorn, watched by the 12th Lord of the Nazgûl" or something like that. I cannot understand why the MS-releases should only be restricted to what some call "canonical" (which means: named) characters. Do you really believe that those "non-canonical" figures would ever be released in a further regular M-series? Do you really believe in this? Just imagine the old M-range without "non-canonical" figures. Just imagine ... we'd have three or four orcs, a handful of Gondorians and another handful of Rohirrim, right? Of course each of those characters in at least 10 different poses. Wouldn't that be nice? In the last years even the Appendices have been checked many times by many of us to find a new idea. Are those characters mentioned in the Appendices "canonical" though they take no active part in Tolkien's writings? Sorry, these are just my thoughts and I do not want to upset anyone around here.
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Post by Theobald on Nov 18, 2012 13:28:16 GMT
Indeed, Master Twrich, I also couldn't understand why your suggestion was linked by "whoever it was" to the Prancing Pony. To me it was very clear that your suggestion was made as another figure that could be added to the Haradan-vignette-idea. Alas, I wish I had never indirectly complained about a missing musician, or two (just for the sound of it). Though ... it's so much non-canonical, you know. Last night I went through all those Tokien's work and could not find any idea of a Haradan musician, that's for sure. So the blame is on me. Sorry for suggesting such a figure.
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Post by Theobald on Nov 18, 2012 13:06:00 GMT
Tja, liebe Leute, wie heißt es so schön ... der letzte macht das Licht aus. Hier gibt es nichts mehr zu sagen. Und, sein wir ehrlich, meistenteils ist doch hier auch nur Frust abgeladen worden, oder? Berechtigterweise, übrigens, wie ich finde. Aber dafür war dies hier ja eigentlich nicht gedacht. Also, was soll's. Woanders hier läuft's ja auch nicht besser. Zu Anfang war ich sogar ein wenig stolz, dass ich hier auf deutsch moderieren durfte; aber das ist bereits ein Weilchen her und Dinge verändern sich. Mich haben hier immer die kritischen Stimmen gefreut. Lobhudelei haben wir ja genug lesen dürfen (von wem auch immer). So, ich mach jetzt mal das Licht aus ... werde den Meister aller Medien morgen darüber informieren, dass er mich hier streichen kann. Vielen Dank an euch und alles Gute. 700 posts, na ja, das passt ja, ist 'ne runde Sache.
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